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Re: Israel was removed from Baidu Maps earlier today

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When we're borderless, there's no border for your car to cross.

How will you know which laws apply?

I guess the next logical step after the borderless society is a lawless one /s

More seriously, as much as I’d love to live in a different world, borders are not going anywhere.

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Reminds me of the problems with contested borders, which e.g. Yandex runs into because they operate in Western and non-Western jurisdictions. They ended up just removing all national borders from the maps for this reason, which has made the UX worse, especially for international trip planning. Google (used to?) opts for a different approach where some borders are drawn based on where they geolocated you to.

We'll all be better off by shifting to a borderless paradigm. Yandex is just a canary in the coal mine.

This to me is like saying your a sovereign citizen. The world would be better off if we all shared resources and everyone enjoyed some minimum of quality of life while there still be strong desires from individuals to create. Its a nice idea but not a reality that is possible.

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Norway is a US client state; Poland could become sovereign but they're too busy trying to annoy literally everyone doing any business with them from any side, for whatever reason.

Can you explain?

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I wonder where would you put countries like Norway or Poland.

Norway is a US client state; Poland could become sovereign but they're too busy trying to annoy literally everyone doing any business with them from any side, for whatever reason.

Huh? Not a very good one, they don't consider Hamas to be a terrorist organisation, for example.

Re: Israel was removed from Baidu Maps earlier today

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Yandex removing displayed borders doesn't move us in any way closer to borderless world in reality. No country is seriously considering it. It's not a canary for anything - they stopped displaying borders exactly because countries/people care about those a lot.

We stopped requiring photos on CVs because some employers cared about them a lot (in order to discriminate).

"we" is not all countries of the world.

Re: Israel was removed from Baidu Maps earlier today

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The most antisemitism lately in my twitter feed comes from the academia and leftist intellectuals. The right leaning seems to be a pro make gaza the biggest parking in the middle east breed.

Did you read the article? >"It's really the fault of Little Mustache," wrote a netizen. "If he had burned all of them (Jews), we wouldn't have this much trouble." Nobody on the left or right in the west is that anti-Semitic, at least not publicly.

> Nobody on the left or right in the west is that anti-Semitic

except for the neo-nazis..

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The most antisemitism lately in my twitter feed comes from the academia and leftist intellectuals. The right leaning seems to be a pro make gaza the biggest parking in the middle east breed.

> The most antisemitism lately in my twitter feed comes from the academia and leftist intellectuals. I'm curious what you're defining as antisemitic here. I've seen a lot of claims that being anti-Israeli-government is equivalent to antisemitism, but this is objectively not the case.

From the top of my head - direct praises of hamas, sharing of the paratrooper meme, sharing of the star of david beheading babies meme and generally a lot of people direct or indirect calling that the Israeli deserved it. There are a lot of Mia Khalifas out there.

Since october 7th there I have observed (probably because a lot of people I follow on twitter are jewish, so they kinda amplify the nasty content) serious rise in "gas the jews" types of antisemithism on twitter.

Some of it edgelording of course, but a lot of the content there has serious bite.

Re: Israel was removed from Baidu Maps earlier today

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The most antisemitism lately in my twitter feed comes from the academia and leftist intellectuals. The right leaning seems to be a pro make gaza the biggest parking in the middle east breed.

> The most antisemitism lately in my twitter feed comes from the academia and leftist intellectuals. I'm curious what you're defining as antisemitic here. I've seen a lot of claims that being anti-Israeli-government is equivalent to antisemitism, but this is objectively not the case.

I agree that this is often the case. I hate people who pull the antisemitic claim and throw it around without just cause.

Right now the main claim is about the university letters that claimed the fault of October 7th terrorist attacks are 100% due to Israel. This is dumb and devoid of factual basis. Also members of the squad said pretty ignorant things about the war.

It's a mistake even Jews make because of basic misunderstanding of the situation. E.g. the grand central demonstration.

This is all based on some correct notion: Israel has been terrible to the Palestinians. That's a fact that the Liberals are 100% correct about. There should be a Palestinian state and settlements should be removed...

But today in New York they had a demonstration which called for the formation of a Palestinian state from sea to river. That effectively means wiping out Israel.

That is the explicit charter of the Hamas. That is why it sabotaged the Oslo accord and stopped peace. Liberals are always against war, but in this case it's a war against a jihadi organization that has done everything to stop peace and a Palestinian state. Some violence is necessary to stop them.

They are also very media savvy and manipulate liberal sentiment with difficult pictures. I saw the Circus the other week. A young liberal was confronting Kamala Harris and said horrible things about Israel. He blamed Israel for the Hospital bombing and made pretty horrendous false claims. This is all false, but by the time it was proven false people don't notice it and move to the next piece of propaganda from the Hamas.

There's a liberal desire to help the weak, I'm a liberal and have that same desire. As a

Re: Israel was removed from Baidu Maps earlier today

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I just love that in the minds of Westerners, 'Chinese company does X' is the equivalent of 'China does X', and when queried on why they think this, they'll tell you that Xi Jinping, like Oz the Great Wizard, pulls the levers of more than a billion Chinese individuals from behind the curtain.

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That's the "lip-service to democracy" line from privileged (all the way to neo-colonial) powers. It's more like a handful of privileged countries behaving as if they own the world, and their client states (who the first have no problem if they're theocratic or dictatorships or brutal far right as long as they are their allies), against the developing world and any country with claims to sovereignity.

Glad that you recognize China, Iran and Russia as privileged and spoiled countries.

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