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Can you use your "free will"? Try your hand

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Re: Can you use your "free will"? Try your hand

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After reading how it works, I can get to around 50% by doing the following: pick a pattern of f's and d's of length between 1-5. Type that pattern. Pause for a second or two. Then change the pattern. Patterns can be, for example: only d's four times; alternate between f and d three times; single f; one f for every two d's two times. In fact, now that I "get it", I don't even need to consciously pick a specific patter…

Replying to my own comment with another method to get a low prediction rate: pick a song or a beat and drum the buttons to the tune of that song (how you map more than two different sounds to just two buttons is up to you).

Re: Can you use your "free will"? Try your hand

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I think the framing of this experiment is bad. It is actually about challenging the user to come up with a random sequence, which is pretty difficult without a coin to flip, an irrational number to copy, etc. When I just "randomly" mash the keys, the prediction rate is around 70%. I have to intentionally focus to avoid patterns as much as I can and then I'm able to pull it down to 54%. Dan Ariely[1] did a similar spi…

I managed to keep it below 45% without any real thought for inputs greater than 100 keystrokes. The biggest problem humans have with randomness is that they underestimate the possibility of long runs (they are rare but not that rare).

Re: Can you use your "free will"? Try your hand

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Is it true? From my point of view, that someone can predict what I will do from past behavior does not imply I don't have a free will. Only way that would prove I don't have a free will is someone who would predict my behavior without knowing anything about my past, like a fortune teller that would tell my friend (because if fortune teller tells it to me it might be self fulfilling prophecy :D) something I would do;…

I think it is true. If something could predict all your actions with 100% certainty then you have no free will - you have no ability to decide for a different outcome than the one that is predetermined. Although if it wasn't like that and you could do truly random decisions, I'm not sure what that says about your free will either. If I had to guess, I don't think I have a free will. In my opinion my actions are a det…

So time travel deletes free will from the universe rather than just providing better information to the oracle?

Does a family member knowing you well deprive you of freedom of choice?

Re: Can you use your "free will"? Try your hand

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In what way is being unpredictable considered "free will"? Of course it's just being clickbaity but worth mentioning. I've seen this better used to show that humans are poor sources of randomness.

Is there a difference between non-determinism and a free will choice? The latter seems to be a contradiction. A choice implies a reason which would be a cause, thus determinism.

This test is asking to make random 'choices'. This does have value in something such as sports.

Re: Can you use your "free will"? Try your hand

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If your behaviour can be predicted then you don't have free will. Obviously you can argue whether this really predicts human behaviour or even the above implication itself (for example I think compatibilism kinda disagrees with it) but I'd say it is related.

Is it true? From my point of view, that someone can predict what I will do from past behavior does not imply I don't have a free will. Only way that would prove I don't have a free will is someone who would predict my behavior without knowing anything about my past, like a fortune teller that would tell my friend (because if fortune teller tells it to me it might be self fulfilling prophecy :D) something I would do;…

For everyone who wants to find out how old their take on free will is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_will#Compatibilism

Re: Can you use your "free will"? Try your hand

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It got more than half wrong, so worse than chance :

Observation- acqhabits

predicted: f, observed: d predicted: f, observed: d predicted: f, observed: d predicted: f, observed: d predicted: f, observed: f predicted: f, observed: d predicted: f, observed: d predicted: d, observed: d predicted: f, observed: d predicted: f, observed: f predicted: f, observed: f predicted: f, observed: f predicted: f, observed: d predicted: f, observed: d predicted: f, observed: f predicted: f, observed: f

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