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Why cloud bandwidth is so obscenely expensive and what you can do about that

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Post by buggeryorkshire »

api wrote: post #109
tyingq wrote: post #18

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Searching for terms like "wholesale bandwidth transit" might be a better reference for comparison of actual cost. The providers you mention are depending somewhat on customers that statistically underutilize what they have and using obscure TOS clauses to chase away heavy users.

That's the list price. You don't pay the list price if you purchase at high volume. Bare metal and VPS providers are surely very high volume customers. This is perhaps an argument against pure DIY colo, but most small scale colo isn't connected "naked" to the Internet but gets racked in a data center that offers a bandwidth package and does peering for you. The only people who peer directly tend to be clouds, bare me…

Company I used to work for had an AWS bill at 7 figures and sometimes 8 (a very time based offering)

AFAICT we had a blanket 20% off the bill, nothing special about egress.

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Post by bradknowles »

jeroenhd wrote: post #123
derefr wrote: post #115

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> Is there some kind of blacklist if you do something like that? No; but oddly enough, the people who "do things like that" generally tend to come from certain countries — I guess countries with cultures that don't place much weight on the concept of "incurring a debt of honor" by consuming someone else's resources without them ever knowing about it. So most systems don't generally need a big, manually curated and ev…

As far as I can tell, the author is French and lives in France. I've heard plenty of stereotypes about the French, but them bit caring about debts if any kind doesn't come to mind. Then again, I seriously doubt Netlify's cost actually reflected the damage incurred. Cloud providers inflate their bills massively, and if they did incur a loss serious enough, they'd pursue the matter in court; a couple of thousands of eu…

Cards from privacy.com are easy to ban because they always come from the same banks, and their card numbers always start with the same eight digit sequence. Just ban anything from that starting eight digit sequence, and you're done.

Sadly, that also hurts all of the legitimate customers from privacy.com.

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Post by Dylan16807 »

withinboredom wrote: post #156
weird-eye-issue wrote: post #155

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It's not going to happen and you're talking out your ass. Speculation is fine but let's not pretend like you have any source for your pet theories By the way I say all of this as a Cloudflare Enterprise customer. I imagine you have a tiny fraction of the experience I do with Cloudflare and completely fail to understand the ramifications of what such a decision would entail on their business

Start searching dude: https://www.cloudflare.com/en-gb/press-releases/ . You lost my respect in this convo so I give zero fucks, believe in whatever you want to believe. Fairies, Monopoly money, whatever.

If you're going to claim a company said something so impactful, you should be prepared to back it up.

Re: Why cloud bandwidth is so obscenely expensive and what you can do about that

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Post by nikolqy »

Oracle Cloud offers 10TB free bandwidth per month and is part of the bandwidth alliance I think with Cloudflare.

Edgecast (Edgio) is free as far as I can tell, except you pay for support if you want it and some extra features.

Datapacket has unmetered bandwidth for example.

There are plenty of solutions, but they aren’t very well known because of the dominance AWS and others have.

Not to mention, it might be cheaper to just use direct connect with a cloud provider or just grab an ASN and host stuff in a local datacenter.

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