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YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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YT Premium costs more than Netflix or Disney+. Quite pricey to get ad free Youtube videos and not as much content than normal streaming sites.

You are still served ads in videos. It sucks paying for premium and your content creators use 3 minutes of 15 minute video to promote “nordVpn”.

https://sponsor.ajay.app/ - sponsorblock is a must.

Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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Hosting is very expensive, e.g https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/15/22979126/vimeo-patreon-cr... That is why almost nobody bothers to do it themselves outside of big tech.

No it's not. Just use PeerTube.

No you don't. There's Bunny CDN though

Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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Good luck for that "default" website to survive financially :)

There are many reasons why youtube reigns supreme but I wonder if newer, extremely efficient video codecs designed with AI inference (as shown in some demos for the last 2 years) would help in breaking up youtube's moat. It's very clear to me that the cost of hosting video content is one of the main things keeping alternatives from popping up, and maybe a codec 50x more efficient than what we have now will finally he…

I didn't do the calculations, but it sounds like trading hosting cost for GPU cost.

Or you can decode on client side, but what if the client device is not powerful enough? Maybe decode on server or client depending on if the user has better internet connection or GPU...?

But anyway it's not my point at all. My point is that if your "killing feature" to attract existing YouTube users to your platform is "No ads", then, well, good luck to survive financially.

Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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I've been wondering, how much does the average YouTube viewer generate in revenue by watching ads? $0.1 a month? $0.25? $0.5 if avid viewer? Given that I'm not an avid viewer and I do not care at all for YouTube Music, I just find the monthly cost of YouTube Premium too high. I don't know what the right price should be, but by comparing with other digital subscriptions I have, I think I would be OK with paying someth…

Others in the thread have pointed this out, but they did have a lite plan that wasn't rolled out broadly for some insane reason. They axed it this month: https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/25/23889917/youtube-premium-...

Oh. I wasn't even aware this existed and I live in one of the countries where it was supposedly available.

Yet another one for the Google Graveyard collection, I guess.

Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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I'd feel more guilty adblocking Youtube if I was certain a fair share the advertising money was going to the creators producing the content. But from their own testimonies, Youtube keeps demonetizing videos for absurd reasons, or allows bad actors to file false copyright claims and outright steal their revenue. It's gotten to the point where I've seen a couple creators give up on the Youtube monetization and go "I do…

I believe video costs around $.1 per TB to deliver above 100PB. Is the provider making that much?

No, but it also pays for users attention, data and opportunity cost, basically me not using another platform competitor. I could be reading a book instead too.

Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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Youtube is entitled to the technical shenanigans it uses to force people to watch ads and I am entitled to the technical shenanigans I use to avoid them on my own device. If youtube blocks off access completely, people will stop considering it a reliable video host and another "default" website will take its place.

I'm also kinda amazed that in order to avoid YT's anti-adblocker you just have to logout from Google's account and you're golden. Basically, Google is indirectly destroying their own userbase that way. "Oh Google, you're blocking me now? lol what am I needin ya for anyway?" What genius came up with the idea anti-adblock flagging Google accounts?

i think they track you just as easily logged out as they do logged in.

Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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> I do feel bad for the creators, but I would rather donate to their Patreons than buy YT premium. I ended up subscribing to both Nebula and Dropout.tv, especially after noticing that a good portion of my favourite YT channels are in fact on Nebula. Sadly, this is primarly larger ones, and I do feel bad about smaller creators being kinda stuck on YT… especially when it's the odd one-time well-made video that really d…

Totally agree this is the real problem. Where do creators go if not YouTube!? Ideally they could self host videos which could be expensive AND not bring any revenue, neither do they are they discoverable - this is where the internet is broken these days. And maybe this is where micro transactions would have a proper use case, i.e. if you had a browser extension where you add $5 and then you can dish out 1ct or 10ct f…

I'm still in favour of a fixed subscription one pays for a service like YouTube in the range of €5/month, with 95% of the proceeds going to creators. If you do nothing, the money will be doled out equally based on some set of fair (and frequently scrutinized) parameters. If the subscriber wants to, they can allocate a portion of this fee to specific creators, and also remove it from creators the you do not want to support (this might help with clickbait and empty fluff created to work well with specific searches).

It won't happen of course.

I recently had ads show up before videos on YouTube (audio only, so uBlock Origin was blocking part of it), and the only thing I felt was disgust and a mental note never to buy insurance from InShared (a Dutch insurance company) simply for repeating the same stupid jingle for each video.

Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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Mega thread issue on GitHub tracking this https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uAssets/issues/19976 Reddit is not and should not be considered a tech support site.

There's not many other good choices, these days. All of the useful tech support sites have been overrun with trolls. stackoverflow, for example. Github issues is probably the best place, but when its abused, there's just no more appropriate place to go. Do you have better suggestions if not Reddit?

dont ask for tech support on this particular problem, and instead just wait for an update. It's unlikely that any report from any user is going to add nor be helpful anyway.

Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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The big issue is, I know ads pay for Youtube, but maybe 1 times out of 100 do I see an ad that promotes positive feelings about the product being advertised. the other 99 times I am less inclined to purchase the product out of annoyance by the ad. Shouldn't the billions of dollars of recommendation research at this point reached a peak where ads are ideally appealing to the viewers they're served to? Wouldn't that ma…

Ads work whether you like them or not. If you see an ad for a toaster from brand ToastX that annoys you and no other toaster ads then you are more likely to buy ToastX brand when you are shopping for a toaster.

People do not remember the ads when they go shopping. Instead our brain goes "I've seen this brand before". (Obviously a positive emotion works better)

This insidiousness.and manipulation is a good reason to block them as much as possible.

And maybe the recognition of manipulation might strengthen our mental resistance and increase consideration when shopping for things. Almost all people including myself don't bother!

Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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> I don't want paid for content. Then the solution for you is extremely simple: Do not go to youtube.com Then you won't have to be bothered by any videos that people made with the expectation of being paid. But what are you doing in a discussion about YouTube? You're free to make as many videos as you please and share them by P2P. YouTube is a partner for video creators for distributing their videos. You are not in t…

You are offering a "solution" to a sentence taken out of the larger context. Poster is arguing for a platform for videos that are not made for payment.

and the implied answer is that such a platform does not and would not exist.
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