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YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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I agree. But services should also be able to require that you remove those types of glasses to use their service. In that case, if you ride the bus for free, you see the ads or you don't ride the bus.

Blind people shouldn't be allowed to ride the bus then?

Blind people would be fine as they wouldn't be wearing the glasses. Being physically unable to see the ads and purposely hiding them, are two different things.

Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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People pay for the roads that is being used while riding a bus. It is built and maintained by their taxes. Bus fares is going towards other costs from operations to salaries. YouTube on the other hand is a freeloader on the internet infrastructure.

That's a ridiculous take. The Internet isn't just free infrastructure that anyone can use. The data has to live somewhere. 2,500 people work at YT. They pay salaries, have offices, manage servers to store the videos, pay their content creators, etc. So nobody is allowed to start an internet company and make money from it? Uber is a business using roads that people pay for, should they not make money? Should those dri…

>That's a ridiculous take

Please chill up and don't forget the HN guidelines [1]

"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith."

That is not the point of my comment, you misinterpreted the meaning of my comments and then built an assumption that it says that "nobody is allowed to start an internet company and make money from it?"

Which is not what my comments says. I will also not try to engage with a discussion in which side don't discuss in a good faith. Specially coming from a new account created for this purpose only.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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Apart from the Youtube stuff, the post also highlights something else, entitlement towards free services like uBlock origin. > It’s one thing to play cat and mouse with YouTube. It’s quite another to deal with a wave of angry users. > And then one of the moderators actually deleted their Reddit account. “The ID in the post wasn’t updated because my mother was hospitalized,” they said. It’s sad to see them leave becau…

Of course Ublock users think they are entitled to free stuff when the whole point of the tool is getting free access to sites without paying for ad free.

Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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And how do creators get paid for the videos shared by P2P?

They don't. I don't want paid for content. If you will only make a video because you want to get paid for it then please, don't make the video. Many people will make videos without expecting payment. See YouTube, for example.

> I don't want paid for content.

Then the solution for you is extremely simple: Do not go to youtube.com

Then you won't have to be bothered by any videos that people made with the expectation of being paid.

But what are you doing in a discussion about YouTube? You're free to make as many videos as you please and share them by P2P. YouTube is a partner for video creators for distributing their videos. You are not in that partnership in any way.

Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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Or, use an LLM to detect angry comments and delete them before any humans have to deal with the BS

You don't need llm for that I think. But sure, if you want people to just leave you. It is a pain but a part of scaling is dealing with a crowd. And I would prefer LLMs to hallucinate a nice constructive criticism than to delete comments by mistake.

I'm pretty familiar with scale and open source. Entitled jerks can fuck off. They take away from your passion and those helpful & respectful users. I draw a hard line there - not letting haters get in the way of love.

Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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I watch ads on YouTube mobile app because there in no way to block ads over there but why the hell YouTube and Google want me to watch ads on a desktop YouTube?! Doesn't majority of Google's and YouTube's ad revenue come from mobile?

Use uBO with Firefox Android and you won't have to watch ads on mobile. Or Adguard with Safari if you're in the walled garden OS.

I know that Firefox Android supports extensions and therefore adblocker but I want to use YouTube's native mobile app because it is faster, more stable and has more features than the mobile web version of YouTube.

Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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Apart from the Youtube stuff, the post also highlights something else, entitlement towards free services like uBlock origin. > It’s one thing to play cat and mouse with YouTube. It’s quite another to deal with a wave of angry users. > And then one of the moderators actually deleted their Reddit account. “The ID in the post wasn’t updated because my mother was hospitalized,” they said. It’s sad to see them leave becau…

> I have seen this becoming more and more common on open source projects and totally free services, where people act as if they are entitled to something as if it is their god given right. Do you count YouTube as a "free service" (with ads) in this case? I wonder if there is an overlap with people that expect free stuff and people that use uBO on YouTube. YT does offer most users YT premium, which gives users an ad f…

YT Premium costs more than Netflix or Disney+. Quite pricey to get ad free Youtube videos and not as much content than normal streaming sites.

Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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I think deadmutex is pointing at a bit of irony and hypocrisy at how we're saying it's bad for people to feel entitled to free adblock support (and ask for more) but champion people feeling entitled to free videos by blocking the ads or refusing to pay for no ads.

Not hypocritical at all. There is no "entitlement" to videos. They are free. YouTube sends them to us for free. They do so hoping we're gonna look at the ads. We're under exactly zero obligation to actually do that though. It is not at all our responsibility to make their business model work. Abusing open source developers is the true entitlement.

Expecting that the videos will be free with no qualifiers (such as an ad playing) is also entitlement. Not that you have said that explicitly but that seems to be a common assumption among many adblock users.

Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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Ads are the unfortunate trade off we make to keep things free. I hate ads. I hate the idea of ads. Tailored propaganda to manipulate you into purchasing product just sounds awful… especially when it’s targeted at children (a demographic where advertising is especially effective).

I think YouTube’s current system is a fair deal. You either watch the content and pay by watching ads, or you pay by purchasing YouTube premium. If you don’t want to pay, and you don’t want to watch ads: leave.

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