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YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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> What part of my comment, specifically, is this responding to? The notion that detecting our adblocker and actually charging for content are equivalent. > Why? Because if they send us ads we'll delete them and there is pretty much nothing they can do about it.

> The notion that detecting our adblocker and actually charging for content are equivalent. Well then maybe you meant to respond to somebody else, because that's not something I said at any point. > Because if they send us ads we'll delete them and there is pretty much nothing they can do about it. This entire HN thread and the linked article are about how they are literally doing something about it, and it's working…

> it's working

The cat and mouse game is not instantaneous. Give it a little time.

Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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Youtube is entitled to the technical shenanigans it uses to force people to watch ads and I am entitled to the technical shenanigans I use to avoid them on my own device. If youtube blocks off access completely, people will stop considering it a reliable video host and another "default" website will take its place.

I'm also kinda amazed that in order to avoid YT's anti-adblocker you just have to logout from Google's account and you're golden. Basically, Google is indirectly destroying their own userbase that way. "Oh Google, you're blocking me now? lol what am I needin ya for anyway?" What genius came up with the idea anti-adblock flagging Google accounts?

Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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post #288

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YT Premium costs more than Netflix or Disney+. Quite pricey to get ad free Youtube videos and not as much content than normal streaming sites.

You are still served ads in videos. It sucks paying for premium and your content creators use 3 minutes of 15 minute video to promote “nordVpn”.

That’s kind of your fault. None of the channels I subscribe to do sponsored content.

Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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Look, just say you’re a cheapskate if you use Adblock and don’t pay for Premium. Just say “I want to get something for nothing”. There are people that refuse to tip because they think the tipping system in the US is immoral. No, they’re just cheap. People are here writing tomes on why they don’t want to pay with attention or $$$ when they’re really just cheap. Edit: Look if you’re going to downvote, at least provide…

Google freely sends a bunch of video content to my computer. Why don’t I have the right to decide which parts of that content I want to watch? Which parts are permitted to execute on my computer?

My computer, my home, my rules. Google has their policies, I have mine. It’s none of Google’s business whether I watched the ads or not.

Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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This is of course bringing up the discussion on the "morality" of Adblocking. I'd like to point out something that I don't think is getting enough attention. There was a point in the past where video platforms were competing, and by no means was it clear that YouTube would end up dominating this area to the point of being close to a monopoly. When YouTube won that race, they won it with a given set of parameters, inc…

I'm also a heavy user of ad blockers, but there is something to be said in defense of YouTube. Creators have the final decision on the ads shown. I have a YouTube channel, and I always disable monetization on all my videos, so no ads are ever shown on my channel. If you see an ad, it's because the creator decided to include one. YouTube is simply the platform that enables this choice.

That's not correct. A few years ago YouTube changed their TOS, so they're now allowed to show ads on any content, regardless of settings.

Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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YouTube had already beat its competitors before it was sold to Google.

Including Google Video. Google did try the tactic of using their search engine to promote their own video platform, but it was against YouTube and Google only bought them because it didn’t work.

it didnt work because people don't search for videos via google usually. They get the video directly from youtube, or was linked by friends virally.

Plus the early days of google (before youtube acquisition), i dont think their video search was as good as the text search anyway (but i might be misremembering of course...).

Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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While it has ultimately come up in this discussion my honest input is most of the comments I see here evaded the elephant in the room of all of it which is that Google doesn't do a good enough job of vetting the people who advertise with it, its search engines have repeatedly allowed malware to slip through the cracks leading to people being exploited and nothing stops those same malware developers from serving up ad…

> YouTube is the one that feels "Entitled" to show me advertisements They show you advertisements in exchange for the free content they provide. You can just as easily not visit the website if you don't feel like the service they provide is worth the risk of being shown the ads they serve.

I can just as easily block their ads unconditionally. If they want something in exchange, they better require payment.

Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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While I agree to an extent, to me the larger issue is that Youtube has become the default video hosting platform with no real competition. I adblock everything but I am sympathetic to the idea that video hosting costs money. But I watch, on average, less than 1 hour of Youtube videos a month, so paying for Youtube makes no sense. Plus I have issues with privacy (part of the reason I've never created a Youtube account…

> But I watch, on average, less than 1 hour of Youtube videos a month, so paying for Youtube makes no sense What's your issue with having to watch ads if you watch less than 1 hour of video content a month? > I wish there was a free and open video platform that had a funding model like Wikipedia, where people could upload things that they had no intention of "monetizing" There's a lot of content on YouTube that peopl…

> What's your issue with having to watch ads if you watch less than 1 hour of video content a month?

Why should I be forced to watch something I don’t want to watch? Google sends my computer a stream of “[ad][ad][content]”. It’s my own damn choice which parts of that to watch.

Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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If ads are indistinguishable from the regular video, can't people just skip past them? Afterall, regular video can be fast-forwarded / skipped. I will tell my computer to automatically skip video that was originally marked as unskippable. If things really escalate, I will tell my computer to blank the screen and mute the audio when an ad is playing. I will do this with a keybinding, or maybe with an AI. This will be…

> I will tell my computer to blank the screen and mute the audio when an ad is playing. Indeed, but you'll still have to wait for the ad to play. YouTube can definitively win this race if they decide so.

I agree this form of blocking will be less appealing to many, but personally, I wouldn't mind a few moments to just breathe, especially when I'm doing ad heavy things. Instead of blanking the screen I might instead show a screen that says "Is there something better you should be doing?".

Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin

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This is false logic. Youtube is free to not show anyone anything - once they send me data and it leaves their system, they have no claim to it. When I shout on a public street "sing me the Francoise Hardy version of I'll Be Seeing You," no one has to reply. If they do reply, but they decide to sing a 2 minute ad for a pyramid scheme first, I am free to cover my ears till the song comes on. Google's servers have a pub…

> Youtube is free to not show anyone anything - once they send me data and it leaves their system, they have no claim to it. Okay well they're about to not show you the videos. You support their latest announcement right? It is completely in line with the the philosophy you just put forward.

Not really. They're still showing people videos for free. Only difference is they're detecting the ad blocker and discriminating. That's a bug, they're not supposed to know about the blocker.
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