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15 Years of Android Memories

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Re: 15 Years of Android Memories

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Post by baz00 »

numpad0 wrote: post #45
baz00 wrote: post #30

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Also Google Pay stops working half way through a journey across London meaning you end up in a massive human pile up. SMS messages stop getting received suddenly at least once a quarter usually when I'm in the middle of fucking nowhere and need to so a 2FA bounce requiring a reboot. And that time it destroyed the filesystem on an SD card resulting in the loss of two weeks of irreplaceable holiday photos in Australia.…

4. Don't ever buy Google in-house hardware. 0. This may be an unimaginably reckless contribution to techno-totalitarianism, but just get an old iPhone. They just work.

I'm using a pixel 7A at the moment. It's fine. In fact it just replaced my iPhone 13 Pro because it has serious issues

As for the iPhone, they mostly just work yes. For a price. Even the old ones are overpriced.

Re: 15 Years of Android Memories

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Post by gumby »

carstenhag wrote: post #24

With all its flaws and lets say "quirks" because we are doing with Google here, I am happy to be an android developer and make good money with it (Germany). I usually compare my situation with my iOS colleagues. When I find a bug or documentation issue in a Google library that is still maintained properly , after creating a bug on their issue tracker, you usually get a real person to properly analyze your issue withi…

Most of the complaints about allow are just flaming, but this is straight, legit criticism.

I don’t understand why Apple has chronically been so terrible towards developers. They need them!

Re: 15 Years of Android Memories

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Post by kaba0 »

PlutoIsAPlanet wrote: post #39
kaba0 wrote: post #15

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As opposed to what? Your Linux desktop that will readily allow sending your browser cache, ssh keys, family photos to anyone with a simple ‘npm install’, nothing at all preventing it? Also, if you call that GUI inaccessible, you write from a place of privilege: mobile platforms absolutely beat the shit out of any desktop computer on accessibility count, hands down, any people with some kind of disability will tell yo…

> Your Linux desktop that will readily allow sending your browser cache, ssh keys, family photos to anyone with a simple ‘npm install’, nothing at all preventing it? That's why everyone is pushing for development in containers..

Containers are not sandboxes at all!

Re: 15 Years of Android Memories

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Post by kaba0 »

Dah00n wrote: post #42
kaba0 wrote: post #15

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As opposed to what? Your Linux desktop that will readily allow sending your browser cache, ssh keys, family photos to anyone with a simple ‘npm install’, nothing at all preventing it? Also, if you call that GUI inaccessible, you write from a place of privilege: mobile platforms absolutely beat the shit out of any desktop computer on accessibility count, hands down, any people with some kind of disability will tell yo…

>Your Linux desktop that will readily allow sending your browser cache, ssh keys, family photos to anyone with a simple ‘npm install’, nothing at all preventing it? Either you are using it wrong (su) or you are describing the exact same behaviour as Windows and MAC. Is it perfect? No. Is it worse than any other mainstream product? No. >Also, if you call that GUI inaccessible, you write from a place of privilege: mobi…

Windows and Mac at least have some rudimentary notion of security. Unfortunately this is simply no priority for most linux distros.

Re: 15 Years of Android Memories

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Post by dataflow »

codethief wrote: post #37
dataflow wrote: post #10

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> What are the worst issues I am likely to encounter? Complete loss of data. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/10/android-14s-ransomwa... Back up your data while you can.

Oh fuck me. Given that I'm on automatic updates and the update has already been downloaded, next time I reboot my phone it will switch to Android 14 automatically. :( (And yup, I'm using work profiles and all that.)

Good thing you can still back up your data. It's possible it doesn't affect everyone, I'm not sure. Lemme know how it goes when you reboot?

Or avoid rebooting somehow (if it's not automatic) in the hope they somehow fix it...

Re: 15 Years of Android Memories

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

Dah00n wrote: post #40
taspeotis wrote: post #17

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Don’t forget you can’t call emergency services if you had Microsoft Teams installed. Also you still can’t call emergency services due to some other bug? One year they forgot December existed in the Contacts app. Also wasn’t their permission model terrible from the start vs. iOS’ fine grained prompts?

>Don’t forget you can’t call emergency services if you had Microsoft Teams installed. That was on Microsoft – not Google, though. >Also you still can’t call emergency services due to some other bug? FUD. >Also wasn’t their permission model terrible from the start vs. iOS’ fine grained prompts? If you want someone to tell you (read: decide for you and leave zero room for choice) what permissions are Good and which are…

> If you want to decide which permissions are Good and Bad, then no, Androids are much better.

Okay, I've decided that arbitrary network access is bad; how do I remove it from most applications on my Android phone?

Re: 15 Years of Android Memories

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

kaba0 wrote: post #54
Dah00n wrote: post #42

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>Your Linux desktop that will readily allow sending your browser cache, ssh keys, family photos to anyone with a simple ‘npm install’, nothing at all preventing it? Either you are using it wrong (su) or you are describing the exact same behaviour as Windows and MAC. Is it perfect? No. Is it worse than any other mainstream product? No. >Also, if you call that GUI inaccessible, you write from a place of privilege: mobi…

Windows and Mac at least have some rudimentary notion of security. Unfortunately this is simply no priority for most linux distros.

Why don't you describe the security model(s) that Windows and Mac defend against and desktop Linux doesn't?

Re: 15 Years of Android Memories

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

kaba0 wrote: post #53
PlutoIsAPlanet wrote: post #39

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> Your Linux desktop that will readily allow sending your browser cache, ssh keys, family photos to anyone with a simple ‘npm install’, nothing at all preventing it? That's why everyone is pushing for development in containers..

Containers are not sandboxes at all!

Why not? If I run Firefox in a container, I would have to explicitly map in my entire real home directory for it to be able to read SSH keys (for instance).

Re: 15 Years of Android Memories

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

rtpg wrote: post #36
squarefoot wrote: post #35

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Lazy management searching for the most used language back then and not willing to invest in finding what would have been the best technical solution, no matter the performance drawbacks. As a result, security is still a myth and Android can only dream the low latency performance of other platforms for example when making music.

Is there really no out nowadays? I guess games get to just take control of the entire system and solve things that way?

You can incorporate native code into Android applications, but it's kind of ugly AIUI

Re: 15 Years of Android Memories

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Post by xethos »

shric wrote: post #6
psbp wrote: post #4

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Android 14 has been a buggy mess for me on the Pixel 7 Pro. It's confounding that Google is still pushing out buggy Android releases.

I upgraded to 14 on my Pixel 7 Pro a few days ago and didn't notice any problem so far. What are the worst issues I am likely to encounter?

If you use multiple profiles, you could potentially end up somewhere between locked out of your main account, to even soft- and hard-bricked. See siblings link from Ars.
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