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Food and Generative AI
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#32Curious to hear people's thoughts on AI applications in the food space.
I think something like the recipe generator that suggested mixing dangerous chemicals into cocktails is going to be a problem for any AI application in this space: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/08/ai-po...
Look, for all it knew that was an alien with a chlorine-dependent biology.
In all seriousness, we're just finding that GIGO still applies. That doesn't mean the tools aren't useful.
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#34> Hosting and fine-tuning LLMs for such a specific and simple machine learning problem may be overkill, especially in terms of costs and time for experimentation.
Yes, thank you! I think a lot of companies have lost the plot jumping to LLMs when they aren't necessary. Recipies are a pretty small search space. You don't really need an LLM to understand the questions being asked.
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#35somehow reminds me of this silly AI cooking show: https://www.twitch.tv/gptv_1/v/1940634313
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#36I feel like generating recipe ideas/titles is the easy part, and advanced AI techniques are not necessary. Even the article notes that there is not really any difference between 1 round of training and 40 rounds of training with their model. Actually generating a recipe is obviously much harder, and should be effectively impossible unless you include a humanoid robot that can cook and taste. I think the best you coul…
I get all of my recipes from GPT-4 these days. Granted, most of them are just regurgitating a common recipe, but I find that it's able to tweak recipes appropriately if I say "I'm out of X, can I use Y or Z instead?" - I've never actually had a bad recipe come of it.
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#37I feel like generating recipe ideas/titles is the easy part, and advanced AI techniques are not necessary. Even the article notes that there is not really any difference between 1 round of training and 40 rounds of training with their model. Actually generating a recipe is obviously much harder, and should be effectively impossible unless you include a humanoid robot that can cook and taste. I think the best you coul…
I get all of my recipes from GPT-4 these days. Granted, most of them are just regurgitating a common recipe, but I find that it's able to tweak recipes appropriately if I say "I'm out of X, can I use Y or Z instead?" - I've never actually had a bad recipe come of it.
I mean if you can cook already you can do whatever you want. I could make a decent meal from a recipe in a language I don't speak just off a handful of cognates. Doesn't mean I followed the recipe in a meaningful sense.
When I've looked at gpt recipes they've had some pretty deranged proportions and you'd be in trouble following them precisely. If you just need a list of ingredients and a loose technique though eg "tofu & cashew stir fry with soy sauce and garlic" then ya sure I mean absolutely.
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#38I like the idea of generating recipes with AI. I dislike the idea of using text as a medium for it. I want this AI to be considering whether what I ate this morning had enough protein, whether this ingredient is on sale and in stock nearby, or whether it's in my fridge and what's the expiration date on that. Is there a plan for the other half of the cauliflower? etc. The last thing I need in a meal is appealing marke…
This is exactly how I feel. I want it to actually be helpful.
It needs to be able to:
- track what I have (if I have input that data) and how soon anything may expire
- track what I made but haven't finished eating (just a few quick pictures in the fridge should update that as needed, or maybe it's time we all get that Alton Brown in-fridge camera to talk to)
- can I use this in something else? How long should it still be good? Etc...
- track my health/nutrition goals
- track what I've already eaten (again, the onus is on me to make sure that data is there) so it can help me follow my health/nutrition goals
- track local grocery store fliers for deals (I do this on my own with the app Flipp and save a ton of money, but if the AI could handle that... that'd be great)
- tracking local grocery store prices would be great too, but unlikely. They need us to come into the store for hopeful impulsive purchasing
- I'm sure there are more things
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#39I feel like generating recipe ideas/titles is the easy part, and advanced AI techniques are not necessary. Even the article notes that there is not really any difference between 1 round of training and 40 rounds of training with their model. Actually generating a recipe is obviously much harder, and should be effectively impossible unless you include a humanoid robot that can cook and taste. I think the best you coul…
>Actually generating a recipe is obviously much harder, and should be effectively impossible unless you include a humanoid robot that can cook and taste.
It's not because this necessary information is already implicit in the sum of all the data it is trained on.
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Tbh I understand this, it did feel like a lot of plastic waste being left around. But I think it'd be an impossible logistical problem to avoid this in the foreseeable future
When you register for your meals they could ask if you have some of the ingredients.
…and then hand-packing to include or remove individual ingredients on a per-order basis? As someone with a significant ERP & warehouse implementation at work, that sounds very expensive and error-prone. Unfortunately :(