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Is your argument that roundabouts are bad for pedestrians? If so why?
The lack of lights and increase in number of crossings (for non-tiny ones) make them pretty terrible to cross as a pedestrian.
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I think you're right about single vs. 2+ lanes. It doesn't matter how many diagram signs they put up before the roundabout entry, people will NOT understand a roundabout with more than one lane, and under no circumstance will people going straight through realize they have to yield to someone coming from the opposite side who's going 270° around the circle and exiting from the inner lane. Roundabouts are fine if the…
> people will NOT understand a roundabout with more than one lane We have tons of 2-lane ones and everyone understands them…
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Our town has loads of them too, and everyone think they understand them. Still accidents are common because people think it's ok to just go straight through by changing lane to inner and then directly exiting without yielding to the ones crossing their path in the outer lane.
At least in the Netherlands its recommended that the two lane roundabouts have mountable curbs specifically to prevent lane changing. The US is unfortunately loth to install any sort of divider more than paint or a feeble plastic post, and less than a jersey barrier.
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The lack of lights and increase in number of crossings (for non-tiny ones) make them pretty terrible to cross as a pedestrian.
I live in NL which has a very high number of roundabouts and this is not my experience at all. Granted most have priority pedestrian crossings which people do respects.
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I think you're right about single vs. 2+ lanes. It doesn't matter how many diagram signs they put up before the roundabout entry, people will NOT understand a roundabout with more than one lane, and under no circumstance will people going straight through realize they have to yield to someone coming from the opposite side who's going 270° around the circle and exiting from the inner lane. Roundabouts are fine if the…
> people will NOT understand a roundabout with more than one lane We have tons of 2-lane ones and everyone understands them…
The shitty part about roundabouts is when people allow blocking of the view to the right on the round about so you are unable to see incoming traffic till its almost on the round about.
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Is your argument that roundabouts are bad for pedestrians? If so why?
The lack of lights and increase in number of crossings (for non-tiny ones) make them pretty terrible to cross as a pedestrian.
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> the uncertainty of who is yielding Same we know red light means stop. You make up a rule. In Australia anyone from the right has right of way.
It’s not the same though. Red means stop. It is ambiguous as to who must yield precisely because there is no red light to indicate it. What would the rule be? Your best guess as to the speed and distance of the other driver?
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Is your argument that roundabouts are bad for pedestrians? If so why?
The lack of lights and increase in number of crossings (for non-tiny ones) make them pretty terrible to cross as a pedestrian.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is your argument that roundabouts are bad for pedestrians? If so why?
The lack of lights and increase in number of crossings (for non-tiny ones) make them pretty terrible to cross as a pedestrian.
This can surely be remedied by having the crossings being raised, acting as speed bumps for the cars and providing a better crossing experience for the pedestrian (or cyclist).
I'm not entirely convinced that the lack of lights would inherently mean that roundabouts are less safe for pedestrians than a signalled intersection - roundabouts remove the concept of running a red, since a car by design has to slow down to navigate the roundabout.
Finally, as a pedestrian, I can cross a roundabout whenever I want to, no beg buttons or waiting for green required.
Do you have any statistics on their claimed lower safety?