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OpenAI Finally Allows ChatGPT Complete Internet Access

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Re: OpenAI Finally Allows ChatGPT Complete Internet Access

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I've been relatively unimpressed with the ChatGPT browse mode. My problem with it is that it seems to run really obvious, naive searches. Most of the time I ask it something, then see what it's searching for and think "oh no, that's not going to return anything more useful than what I could have found myself". It's also pretty slow. I'm very much looking forward to having a search assistant which can go ahead and wad…

Wish it had my use case - go to website foo, copy it's CSS and apply to my framework of choice

Re: OpenAI Finally Allows ChatGPT Complete Internet Access

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When I use ChatGPT browse it's mainly two cases:

1. I don't want to read through all materials in that topic but want an overview.

2. I can't describe the topic with the precise language for it, hoping ChatGPT can translate my naive description to the vocabulary for that field.

ChatGPT does bad in both of these cases. For (1) it just randomly browses 3~4 search results, as for (2) it always try to search in my original vocabulary. Why don't I search myself then, but to wait for the slow response?

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Please don't paste ChatGPT or BARD answers as HN comments in general? In this specific case, no, LLMs don't reliably know about themselves. They're trained on a big corpus of internet text, then trained by rough reinforcement learning to say and not say certain things about themselves, then given a little more information about themselves in system prompts.

A LLM that can use tools is probably going to know it can use tools. Either it's trained to do so or the information is embedded in the context. 3.5 can't browse, only 4 so the above is perfectly correct.

Fair, you're probably right in this case.

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AI Kessler Syndrome. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome

Is there an approximation/ratio in which the amount of digital garbage/hallucinations online generated by AI is so big that it cannot be used to train AI itself? Like are AI companies running against the clock because, say, in 5 years the internet will be flooded by false information to such an extent that it would render the internet as an invalid training ground. In a way requiring a snapshot of the internet pre-AI…

It's too late already if you want to just scrape random horseshit on the internet. There will be real money in large expert generated data sets. AI is also a potential epistemology nightmare. It can cement bad knowledge and bury new more up to date knowledge in a sea of bullshit.

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Kagi ultimate is 25 a month and has Claude, GPT4, and AI web search. Been using it a month or so and it's great.

Do you have a source for that? All I can find is here [0], which doesn't mention GPT4 or Claude. [0] https://help.kagi.com/kagi/plans/ultimate-plan.html

I wonder why they don't list that under ultimate plan? On pricing page the selling point for ultimate is like: Hey, help us test things and help us by giving some money: https://kagi.com/pricing

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Do you have a source for that? All I can find is here [0], which doesn't mention GPT4 or Claude. [0] https://help.kagi.com/kagi/plans/ultimate-plan.html

I wonder why they don't list that under ultimate plan? On pricing page the selling point for ultimate is like: Hey, help us test things and help us by giving some money: https://kagi.com/pricing

It is in closed beta.

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ChatGPT, Claude and prepexity are each $20/mo Chatgpt4 seems most powerful but Claude offers unlimited context which can be used to summarize entire books Prepexity can browse and summarize web Which one should I subscribe to?

Kagi ultimate is 25 a month and has Claude, GPT4, and AI web search. Been using it a month or so and it's great.

Which one is powering their bot which does citations?

Re: OpenAI Finally Allows ChatGPT Complete Internet Access

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I thought Google's given Bard access to the internet?? I guess people still don't think to use Bard over ChatGPT

Even the Bard UI is worse. Being able to read the ChatGPT output as it's generated, instead of staring at a blank screen, is a massive time saver. And, I prefer ChatGPT trying stuff rather than Bard telling me that 'it can't do that right now' and 'we're trying to get better'. I've tried Bard, it's just not worth it.

> Being able to read the ChatGPT output as it's generated, instead of staring at a blank screen, is a massive time saver.

There's an option in Bard's settings to enable real time replies.

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