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OpenAI Finally Allows ChatGPT Complete Internet Access

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Re: OpenAI Finally Allows ChatGPT Complete Internet Access

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Will blocking User-agent: GPTBot in robots.txt work for this too?

This time it's not scraping the internet (like a robot) but actually acting as a direct user agent for the human typing their prompt, so I wouldn't be against them ignoring robots.txt.

My understanding is that the philosophy behind robots.txt is owners not wanting their content automatically included in someone else's product, if not duplicated and recorded wholesale. The important idea seems to be ownership, not the ability to browse. If OpenAI had two agents, one with no memory, and one with a memory, that would be better: you could disallow ChaptGPT-storage and allow ChatGPT-user, for example. Barring that, I'd be afraid allowing ChatGPT access to my website means my website is now part of the ChatGPT corpus.

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I've been relatively unimpressed with the ChatGPT browse mode. My problem with it is that it seems to run really obvious, naive searches. Most of the time I ask it something, then see what it's searching for and think "oh no, that's not going to return anything more useful than what I could have found myself". It's also pretty slow. I'm very much looking forward to having a search assistant which can go ahead and wad…

Have you tried phind.com? It even cites its sources.

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post #13

I've been relatively unimpressed with the ChatGPT browse mode. My problem with it is that it seems to run really obvious, naive searches. Most of the time I ask it something, then see what it's searching for and think "oh no, that's not going to return anything more useful than what I could have found myself". It's also pretty slow. I'm very much looking forward to having a search assistant which can go ahead and wad…

It’s also pretty useless at understanding any page that’s even remotely complex. I asked it to tell me when the next baseball home game is so I can avoid traffic when going to the downtown library and it couldn’t answer even that basic question. The search results defaulted to the team’s official calendar but the day numbers were displayed as images so they could style them in the team’s font, making them invisible t…

No alt attributes or does GPT miss those?

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#34
Tried Browse with Bing a few times, but unlike the normal conversations with Bing, the results from Browse with Bing other than being more up-to-date presumably, gave seemingly very generic answers based on if I had simply searched rather than using all it's power like normal and simply including the latest up-to-date data and took a while to run. So it's a start and hopefully that feature will improve as it enters this new stage.

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post #13

I've been relatively unimpressed with the ChatGPT browse mode. My problem with it is that it seems to run really obvious, naive searches. Most of the time I ask it something, then see what it's searching for and think "oh no, that's not going to return anything more useful than what I could have found myself". It's also pretty slow. I'm very much looking forward to having a search assistant which can go ahead and wad…

It’s also pretty useless at understanding any page that’s even remotely complex. I asked it to tell me when the next baseball home game is so I can avoid traffic when going to the downtown library and it couldn’t answer even that basic question. The search results defaulted to the team’s official calendar but the day numbers were displayed as images so they could style them in the team’s font, making them invisible t…

ChatGPT seems to be able to parse images pretty well now. I wonder why they don't simply feed it a screencap of the rendered page instead of the html.

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#37

Google search is dead.

I thought Google's given Bard access to the internet?? I guess people still don't think to use Bard over ChatGPT

Unfortunately for Google, Bard is irrelevant by means of being late and inferior to GPT-4

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That makes no sense. It’s still automated and not an actual human, and it’s still distilling information from the internet.

Your browser is also automating things, you're not resolving DNS and writing all the http requests by hand.

So because something is automated somewhere, nobody has to follow robots.TXT anymore?

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The amount of sites I regularly use with ChatGPT that are blocking AI agents has increased to the point where this feature is not that useful for me anymore. I can only see that amount increasing.

If anything, AI work feels like it has accelerated everyone with any dataset of value pulling up their drawbridge, reducing open interconnectivity of the web in hopes of charging for data access.

This started with scrapers and aggregation sites and has gotten noticeably worse.

Re: OpenAI Finally Allows ChatGPT Complete Internet Access

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

ChatGPT, Claude and prepexity are each $20/mo Chatgpt4 seems most powerful but Claude offers unlimited context which can be used to summarize entire books Prepexity can browse and summarize web Which one should I subscribe to?

Kagi ultimate is 25 a month and has Claude, GPT4, and AI web search. Been using it a month or so and it's great.

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