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Re: UK government surveilling social media of teaching assistants

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Post by partitioned »

bluescrn wrote: post #12
happytiger wrote: post #8

Remember this is “keeping files on posts that criticise education policies” — tracking political dissenters who don’t like the government’s policies but have done nothing wrong or illegal. While we’re off focusing on encryption debates and the online safety bill, the UK government isn’t waiting around. Just what is “accredited technology”? As defined in that bill, and how much does encryption play a role when monitor…

Meanwhile, when groups of activists surveil dissenters/wrongthinkers on social media, actively make lists of them and try to get them fired or worse for their speech/thoughts, many still defend that as 'perfectly reasonable consequences of unacceptable speech'

But that activism is free speech itself

always funny when the free speech absolutist gets mad when people use free speech to cancel someone

Re: UK government surveilling social media of teaching assistants

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Post by tick_tock_tick »

mcguire wrote: post #39
oooyay wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone across the spectrum does it. It's a way of reinforcing the power of a particular political camp. There's a way to fix that though, make it very difficult to fire people. Then companies will need to be incredibly clear about what conditions they're choosing to terminate under.

The United Kingdom is not a state in the United States.

I mean technically you're right. England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are each oversea territories of the United States instead of the UK itself being a state.

Re: UK government surveilling social media of teaching assistants

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Post by tick_tock_tick »

bradley13 wrote: post #20

Wrongthink must be stamped out! Seriously, what kind of dystopia are UK politicians trying to create? Also, that's a lot of tax money that could, I dunno, be used to improve the schools?

They saw V for Vendetta and strive for it.

Re: UK government surveilling social media of teaching assistants

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Post by kbelder »

injidup wrote: post #47

What one posts on public social media sites is public . Is this surveillance?

You know, I think this sounds like a horrible overreach by the UK government, but your point is at least worth considering. This isn't reading emails or tapping phone calls, this is public info.

Re: UK government surveilling social media of teaching assistants

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Post by hermitcrab »

pydry wrote: post #17

Just like Russia. I wish the UK would spend a bit less effort trying to provoke and fight Russia to the death and a bit more effort trying not to become Russia. I also wish that wasn't a controversial opinion.

Yes. The direction and velocity of travel is very worrying. We've already lost a lot of our rights for peaceful protest. Inconveniencing people with your protest? That's the whole point of protesting isn't it? Fuck the Conservative party. I hope they are destroyed at the next election.

Re: UK government surveilling social media of teaching assistants

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Post by [deleted] »

oooyay wrote: post #23
bluescrn wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meanwhile, when groups of activists surveil dissenters/wrongthinkers on social media, actively make lists of them and try to get them fired or worse for their speech/thoughts, many still defend that as 'perfectly reasonable consequences of unacceptable speech'

Everyone across the spectrum does it. It's a way of reinforcing the power of a particular political camp. There's a way to fix that though, make it very difficult to fire people. Then companies will need to be incredibly clear about what conditions they're choosing to terminate under.

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Re: UK government surveilling social media of teaching assistants

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Post by junofan »

kbelder wrote: post #55
injidup wrote: post #47

What one posts on public social media sites is public . Is this surveillance?

You know, I think this sounds like a horrible overreach by the UK government, but your point is at least worth considering. This isn't reading emails or tapping phone calls, this is public info.

Is there a public list of UK teachers I can use to conduct my own dragnet surveillance of dissidents? If not, surely combining both private and public information on people to track dissent is an overreach.
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