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Great Male Renunciation

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Re: Great Male Renunciation

#31

Gosh, I miss how organized and rich the Old World culture was. Today's culture, is broad and spiritually hollow by comparison.

yes... great if you were rich

or.. pressed ganged as a poor man into the Royal navy - on one of the lucky ships that didn't suffer too much.

besides 'if you were rich' is same trade-off as today's world...

Re: Great Male Renunciation

#33
post #16

Just what % of the population actually wore those clothes back then? Are we comparing ourselves to what the 1% or 0.1% wore?

It was notables and nobles clothing, so 10%? plus military. Plus all the textile workers where tint was available, so I guess quite a lot.

You think 10% of people were notable or nobles?

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#35
post #16

Just what % of the population actually wore those clothes back then? Are we comparing ourselves to what the 1% or 0.1% wore?

It was notables and nobles clothing, so 10%? plus military. Plus all the textile workers where tint was available, so I guess quite a lot.

10% of the population was notables and nobles?? I'm gonna need to see some links/data here.

Re: Great Male Renunciation

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the modern era everyone is rich to their standards.

Are we though? I sure as heck can't afford to pay a staff of servants.

A relevant quote about the change of affordability of certain things from the late Agatha Christie looking back at her early years - "I couldn’t imagine being too poor to afford servants, nor so rich as to be able to afford a car."

With respect to material culture - so also with respect to what clothing styles and fashions are possible - anybody who can afford a car is far richer than people who had servants a hundred years ago.

Re: Great Male Renunciation

#37
Bright colors used to be a sign of quality, everything expensive had tons of colors. Industrial revolution changed that, now bright colors are associated with cheap toys instead because they are used to cover deficiencies in the production process.

So it makes sense that people who care about quality moved away from colorful things.

Re: Great Male Renunciation

#38

Gosh, I miss how organized and rich the Old World culture was. Today's culture, is broad and spiritually hollow by comparison.

I think you're comparing your first person view of the modern world with the curated and idealized view of the many facets of the past.

Re: Great Male Renunciation

#39

From the musical “Hair”: I would just like to say that it is my conviction That longer hair and other flamboyant affectations Of appearance are nothing more than the male's emergence From his drab camouflage into the gaudy plumage Which is the birthright of his sex There is a peculiar notion that elegant plumage And fine feathers are not proper for the man When actually that is the way things are in most species

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