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Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by queuebert »

The elephant in the room is that this happens because these companies are too big. They command such monopolies over their walled gardens that everyone must advertise with them, so there is no requirement to provide customer service to any but the largest accounts.

With many smaller companies in a competitive environment, some would be forced to provide a good customer experience to differentiate their service. Theoretically, at least.

(Note the advertisers are the customers, not the users.)

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by nrdxp »

roydivision wrote: post #243
skeletal88 wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 1984 they don't have laws, only crimes, so whatever you do, you have to guess if it is illegal and will be punished or not. It is on purpose to keep the population in constant fear

Em, this is a private company. I see what you mean, but this hardly points to some dystopia.

This endlessly parroted argument argument is so tired and lazy already. How big do these companies have to get before you turn your brain back on?

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by Xixi »

bombcar wrote: post #305
Xixi wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We tried, to no avail, just got the same unhelpful answer each time. Although we didn’t push too much, as we were still relying on the sole proprietorship account, and didn’t want to jeopardize that! Now that we’re 90% done with the migration to PayPal, I think we can try again…

It sounds like the real story is you need to keep two payment processing setups active and used at all times, because you never know when one is going to mysteriously disappear.

Exactly why I’d like to get a Stripe account up and running again, while also keeping PayPal.

I was very happy with Stripe all these years… but having a least two payment processors is probably safer.

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by hn8305823 »

Fischgericht wrote: post #74

I've multiple times tried to open a seller account on Ebay. Two minutes after the account was created and confirmed it got blocked due to me having violated their terms of services. At this point I had not done ANYTHING with the account yet, not even putting in a profile picture. And the rest went the same as with you: Appeal process is done by a bot who only knows one answer: "We are right, you violated our ToS, you…

I'm curious what "type" of IP address were you using when you created the account? Residential, mobile, work/office, or data center?

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by pjmlp »

kukkeliskuu wrote: post #285
pjmlp wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't need for book references, that is how it is today in many countries, and it has been always in less democratic societies.

When you see a phenomena described in literature, you have some emotional distance to it. It may be more easy for you to accept the possibility that such a phenomena can exist. Sometimes people cannot bear to see the phenomena in real life even if it is very clear for many people. Life is complex, so there are always many opportunities for weave a narrative to explain away phenomena that you cannot bear to see.

Having been born as the first free generation on a post ditactorship Portugal, I definitly have another relationship growing up to stories from PIDE/DGS and colonial war survivors.

And I should note, compared to some countries, things were relatively soft on our case.

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by ggybdese »

Lio wrote: post #93
m4rtink wrote: post #83

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Not telling you whats wrong should be highly ilegal, given how important these systems can be for modern society.

I'd prefer it if we legislated that organisations can't exclusively rely on closed systems like Facebook/Meta to run their services. I saw a sign last year for forestry service work happening locally to me. Apparently they're only going to provide safety announcements on Facebook. Shit like that grinds my gears. Meta's users aren't citizens, they're serfs. :(

> they're only going to provide safety announcements on Facebook.

While I understand, what's the alternative you propose? I have seen HN threads ridiculing some govt website for being outdated or not fixing the latest vulnerability or not using the latest version etc. Or if they do allocate a bigger chunk of their budget for tech and there will be unreasonable HN threads about how one user feels he/she could build it over a weekend and question the budgets. Worst yet, I have seen numerous HN threads talking about big ad tech (which most big tech are), claiming their services are totally non essential and a waste of time, and how their life improved since they stopped using these services. This comment goes as far as to call all the users as serfs totally ignoring that many real people and their real use cases :(

I feel its used because it's free and it simply works for most people. I feel the status quo is there because of the lack of a better one. You simply cannot make everyone happy on HN, let alone all people.

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by plagiarist »

TravisLS wrote: post #246
lbriner wrote: post #47

The whole issue around not telling you what rule you broke "because then you might work around it" is total BS. It's like a company I complained to the other day because they didn't label one of the inputs on their password reset form because "it would help a hacker know what to type in it" (it was the password reset password they expected but you wouldn't know). How much quicker would this be resolved if the first A…

I'm not sure where the threshold is for spending. I have an account that was spending over $500K/yr on Facebook ads and we were blocked by AI with no recourse for over 6 months before we finally found a human who was able to reverse it.

I would have ended all spend with Meta. I suppose you don't have much choice if you're spending $500k on acquisition there.

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by Fischgericht »

hn8305823 wrote: post #314
Fischgericht wrote: post #74

I've multiple times tried to open a seller account on Ebay. Two minutes after the account was created and confirmed it got blocked due to me having violated their terms of services. At this point I had not done ANYTHING with the account yet, not even putting in a profile picture. And the rest went the same as with you: Appeal process is done by a bot who only knows one answer: "We are right, you violated our ToS, you…

I'm curious what "type" of IP address were you using when you created the account? Residential, mobile, work/office, or data center?

Own, I'm a RIPE member. Clean subnet, never been on any blacklist whatsoever.

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by marcosdumay »

rurban wrote: post #208
omnibrain wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a book on that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trial

Kafka is about human bureaucracy. This case is about AI bureaucracy.

There is no AI bureaucracy, at least until now, it's all human.
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