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Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by redog »

kunley wrote: post #203

I wonder if anyone is recognizing that the fail here is in removing a human element in the support and instead relying on a far inferior technology to handle cases it can't handle. In other words, the problem is that suddenly a machine is not only making laws but also executing them. But we as a society did not agree to hand our laws to the machine. Luckily, the area where these laws apply, is very narrow atm - it is…

The article states that the evidence was removed as well.

A human wouldn't have had anything to review no wonder they got rid of him.

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Post by graphitout »

I can understand your frustration. I was banned from Google ads and to this day I have no clue why. I was selling a speech recognition product. I appealed once, but it didn't get anywhere.

These big companies don't care much about small users and can be quite nasty in their language. They have no interest to make the process fair because they have all the power.

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Post by shortrounddev2 »

RugnirViking wrote: post #236
zmmmmm wrote: post #91

What I find most frustrating about this is that they straight up lie to you. They don't actually review your account and the ban isn't permanent. The minute people in this situation get through to a human (one with any autonomy, anyway) the ban gets reversed. So it's all about the cost and efficiency and convenience for Facebook/Meta. I definitely think there need to be laws made about this. Because it's really clear…

There exist laws about this, which provide a market solution. It's just that everybody has their fingers in their ears yelling about how big tech aren't monopolies so the existing laws aren't being applied. In an actual competetive environment, you would go to the next door buisness that didn't arbritrarily ban you/has actual people in their customer service...

There exists dozens if not hundreds of programmatic advertising companies you can go to to show banner ads, not to mention Google

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Post by bgro »

lbriner wrote: post #47

The whole issue around not telling you what rule you broke "because then you might work around it" is total BS. It's like a company I complained to the other day because they didn't label one of the inputs on their password reset form because "it would help a hacker know what to type in it" (it was the password reset password they expected but you wouldn't know). How much quicker would this be resolved if the first A…

Ah just like Microsoft who randomly locks my email I account I use only to receive spam email. Suddenly I’ve violated something in the terms of service and here’s a copy of the 200 page legal document. So my account is banned despite not sending emails or anything, just receiving spam email.

Oh unless I provide my phone number. Then they’ll unban me and I can continue presumably breaking the terms of service.

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Post by kukkeliskuu »

pjmlp wrote: post #133
skeletal88 wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 1984 they don't have laws, only crimes, so whatever you do, you have to guess if it is illegal and will be punished or not. It is on purpose to keep the population in constant fear

Don't need for book references, that is how it is today in many countries, and it has been always in less democratic societies.

When you see a phenomena described in literature, you have some emotional distance to it. It may be more easy for you to accept the possibility that such a phenomena can exist.

Sometimes people cannot bear to see the phenomena in real life even if it is very clear for many people. Life is complex, so there are always many opportunities for weave a narrative to explain away phenomena that you cannot bear to see.

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Post by speed_spread »

m4rtink wrote: post #83
lbriner wrote: post #47

The whole issue around not telling you what rule you broke "because then you might work around it" is total BS. It's like a company I complained to the other day because they didn't label one of the inputs on their password reset form because "it would help a hacker know what to type in it" (it was the password reset password they expected but you wouldn't know). How much quicker would this be resolved if the first A…

Not telling you whats wrong should be highly ilegal, given how important these systems can be for modern society.

Not sure about that, gcc is pretty important to society and still gives out the most cryptic error messages.

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Post by klik99 »

distances wrote: post #189
Anchor wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another sad anecdote: A bank in Finland suspended an account for a text in free-form message field of a bank transfer. The message was for a vet visit of a dog named Ira. When you say "Ira's payment" in Finnish, you add suffix -n, so the text field said Iran, which of course must indicate money transfer to a sanctioned country. It is comforting to know that the bank system catches all the illegal activity that the sa…

An acquaintance of mine (in Europe) had a default bank transfer message "al-qaeda terrorist fund" for years and years. That did finally raise some flags, but a visit to a bank office was enough to get the account unblocked. Being a bit stubborn, he still kept the message and just applied rot13 to it.

What's funny about this is that multiple people at this bank think that a terrorist group would just freely advertise itself this way. Like some local cell leader names his accounts "Groceries", "Home Repair", "Bombing Supplies"

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Post by dale_glass »

schoen wrote: post #232
EmilioMartinez wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Makes me wonder what's the worst possible phrasing "Master Python and Pandas, make them work for you, attack new challanges, earn good money"

"How to use the innards of Python and Pandas"? "If you find yourself fighting with Python and Pandas, I'll help you improve your technique"? "Using Python and Pandas in the wild"? "10 unexpected uses for Python and Pandas in the food and apparel industries"? "Breaking all the rules for Python imports"? "How to replace your whole ecosystem with just Python and Pandas"? "Put Python to work on the family farm"?

I asked GPT-4:

There's a book called "Using Python and Pandas in the wild". What do you think it's about?

"Using Python and Pandas in the wild" likely refers to the application of the Python programming language and the Pandas library in real-world scenarios or practical use cases.

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by dhfbshfbu4u3 »

Not surprised by this at all. “Animal trading” is such a touchy category within Meta. Once you get flagged for this, you can basically kiss your account goodbye. It is impossible to get support, even in cases like this where it clearly has nothing to do with animals. Meta simply will not touch it. There are other categories like this too. Ultimately it is easier/safer for Meta to just wholesale ban any use of terms even if it seems really stupid. This will only continue as Meta continues its exit from detailed ad targeting. Google is doing the same thing too.

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Post by thefounder »

lbriner wrote: post #47

The whole issue around not telling you what rule you broke "because then you might work around it" is total BS. It's like a company I complained to the other day because they didn't label one of the inputs on their password reset form because "it would help a hacker know what to type in it" (it was the password reset password they expected but you wouldn't know). How much quicker would this be resolved if the first A…

This is the most common "security" measure in the payments industry(i.e paypal)
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