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Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by kmlx »

weinzierl wrote: post #268
skeletal88 wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 1984 they don't have laws, only crimes, so whatever you do, you have to guess if it is illegal and will be punished or not. It is on purpose to keep the population in constant fear

Franz (not Apache) Kafka's The Trial also fits the situation: "[..] the story of a man arrested and prosecuted by a remote, inaccessible authority, with the nature of his crime revealed neither to him nor to the reader." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Kafka

every time someone mentions Kafka here i get reminded of his works and every time the comment is about Apache Kafka :)

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by K0balt »

pjmlp wrote: post #153
btparker wrote: post #147

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Yeah! How dare they, referencing literature.

That wasn't the point, no need for literature references when you can enjoy that kind of life today when living in less fortunate regions.

Or, just dealing with FAANG

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by redog »

dghughes wrote: post #269

This reminds me of Instagram which I rarely use but one time when I did it indicated that I had been blocked for some reason. You have to take a picture of yourself yes a selfie (yuck) and send it to Instagram. The funny thing is I have no selfies on Instagram so what are they using or comparing my selfie to? I was unblocked and that was that no idea what happened.

> what are they using or comparing my selfie to?

A graph database that is more you to them than you are you to them. You know meta things.

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by eesmith »

nabla9 wrote: post #234
eesmith wrote: post #204

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From the link: "I’ve been in the computer industry for a while, and have no small number of contacts. Three friends who have worked at Meta (two current, one past) offered to check into this for me." Followed by a description of their failures.

Yes, and some of those 'friends' may be the one who got him canned. The evidence of their involvement is already destroyed (180 day retention). Check for friends who compete and work with Meta.

When are you going to option your movie script?

That is, look at the benefit/risk. If someone does this and is caught, they could lose their job.

The instigator must assume reuven wasn't going to notice this change within 180 days, and assume reuven doesn't have another contact at Meta who can figure things out.

This only works because reuven does little advertising on Meta, but that means there isn't much benefit to the instigator.

Hanlon's Razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by K0balt »

roydivision wrote: post #243
skeletal88 wrote: post #112

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In 1984 they don't have laws, only crimes, so whatever you do, you have to guess if it is illegal and will be punished or not. It is on purpose to keep the population in constant fear

Em, this is a private company. I see what you mean, but this hardly points to some dystopia.

When a company becomes pervasive enough to become a feature of the ambient social, commercial or economic environment, the argument of “its a private company” loses its validity.

At that point the company serves a vital public function, and its rules and actions bleed into public governance.

Which is a great argument for limiting the scope and size of companies that interface directly with the public.

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by kobalsky »

roydivision wrote: post #243
skeletal88 wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 1984 they don't have laws, only crimes, so whatever you do, you have to guess if it is illegal and will be punished or not. It is on purpose to keep the population in constant fear

Em, this is a private company. I see what you mean, but this hardly points to some dystopia.

wasn’t this mere private company recently in the spotlight for a scandal related to getting a us president elected through manipulation ?

maybe you should be holding them to a different set of standards

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by Zetobal »

reuven wrote: post #267
Zetobal wrote: post #251

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1 year.

I hadn't advertised in several years. I noticed the ban, and then didn't do anything about it for one year.

So you are saying it wasn't really necessary for years to advertise. You decided after receiving an injust ban to not appeal for over a year besides your knowledge about other horror stories. Now your life depends on being able to advertise on Facebook and the way to go forward was writing a bad sob story gladly obfuscating your own failings in it. Looks like a lot of blaming and no self reflection.

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by decafbad »

I remember from twenty years ago, Amazon recommended a book for dementia patients, related to purchase of an AS/400 manual. Because of the name similarity between the IT author and other book's illustrator. We couldn't move one step forward.

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by em-bee »

lambda_garden wrote: post #78

Title is misleading. They weren't banned because they "teach Python. " but because Meta has faulty algorithms.

it is necessary to point out how faulty the algorithm is so that people can understand how dangerous automated decision making is

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by Retric »

zx8080 wrote: post #162
HPsquared wrote: post #125

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Serfs were at least tied to the land and somewhat entitled to live there. It's a lower status than serfs.

Not human beings. Things.

A surprisingly large number of people chose to become serfs due to the benefits it provided. It seems wacky, but companies really are treating users in ways that lords were legally prevented from treating their surfs.

The privileges vs obligations of serfdom would be unpleasant by our standards, but it wasn’t slavery.

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