Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas • Hacker News Board

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by jaketheguy » Thu, Oct 19, 2023, 10:21 AM UTC

random_coder wrote: post #118

pr337h4m wrote: post #57

>That’s right: I teach courses in Python and Pandas. Never mind that the first is a programming language and the second is a library for data analysis in Python. Meta’s AI system noticed that I was talking about Python and Pandas, assumed that I was talking about the animals (not the technology), and banned me. If this is true, that is insanely embarrassing for a company that purports to be a sophisticated programmat…

What's wrong with talking about animals anyway? Truly bizarre.

Just guessing here, but if the senteces sounded like "how to use pandas to help you in work" AI could have decided that you're going to use a cute bear to lay bricks for you. Plus the "exotic animals", as someone else mentioned.

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by zx8080 » Thu, Oct 19, 2023, 10:21 AM UTC

HPsquared wrote: post #125

Lio wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd prefer it if we legislated that organisations can't exclusively rely on closed systems like Facebook/Meta to run their services. I saw a sign last year for forestry service work happening locally to me. Apparently they're only going to provide safety announcements on Facebook. Shit like that grinds my gears. Meta's users aren't citizens, they're serfs. :(

Serfs were at least tied to the land and somewhat entitled to live there. It's a lower status than serfs.

Not human beings.

Things.

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by philipwhiuk » Thu, Oct 19, 2023, 10:22 AM UTC

At no point does the author provide a single example of an advert they created.

Does no-one else find this slightly fishy?

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by jbverschoor » Thu, Oct 19, 2023, 10:22 AM UTC

I'm curious which images he used to advertise.

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by philipwhiuk » Thu, Oct 19, 2023, 10:24 AM UTC

halukakin wrote: post #67

There are many digital marketing executives who are banned to advertise on Facebook. FB decides they did something wrong once, and now they cannot advertise anymore. So effectively they cannot find a job in digital advertising because Meta wants you to use your personal account for advertising even when you are working for a company. This needs to stop. Maybe this could be moved under the scope of "EU Digital Markets…

Why should Meta be forced to give people second chances who didn't read the rules the first time.

A lot of the times when you actually dig into this stuff, the person banned did break a perfectly reasonable rule.

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by philipwhiuk » Thu, Oct 19, 2023, 10:25 AM UTC

Neil44 wrote: post #109

"The UK GDPR gives people the right not to be subject to solely automated decisions, including profiling, which have a legal or similarly significant effect on them." https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/uk-gdpr-guidance-and-re...

The right to have a human review a decision predates GDPR - it was part of the Data Protection Act.

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by foreigner » Thu, Oct 19, 2023, 10:26 AM UTC

I'm Meta's defense, a Python and a Panda trained to work together would be really dangerous!

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by philipwhiuk » Thu, Oct 19, 2023, 10:26 AM UTC

reuven wrote: post #49

mvdtnz wrote: post #18

Did I miss something in the article? His only evidence that he was banned because of python (supposedly a ban on dealing in live animals) is that some other guy on Linked In who also advertised for Python courses was also banned and he claimed, without evidence, that it was because of the live animal constraint? This is not very convincing evidence. It definitely sounds like something has gone wrong, but OP is jumpin…

True, I don't know for sure that I was banned for Python. But it's the only information that I have so far, since Meta isn't telling me anything. And the other person confirmed that he had this problem multiple times. And it's true, you're only seeing one side of the story here. But I promise, I can't think of anything nefarious I've done that would get me banned. Well, aside from my crypto casino run by drug-smoking…

You're also not providing us a single example advert.

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by jfoster » Thu, Oct 19, 2023, 10:27 AM UTC

On Facebook I get ridiculous amounts of crypto scam ads falsely claiming to be associated with Elon Musk or his companies. I think even simple text based filters could catch them. It's been happening for years. I keep thinking surely they'll have it under control soon.

Seems they are busy creating filters & banning accounts, just not the right ones.

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by RecycledEle » Thu, Oct 19, 2023, 10:27 AM UTC

We need a social credit system that is more like what eBay feedback was like in 1996 than what China has today.

Everyone who has ever had feelings with me should be able to leave feedback on me, and I should be able to leave feedback on everyone I ever dealt with.

It should be illegal to share a calculated score for money. Instead, a scripting interface similar to Excel formulas should allow us all to write out own metrics for who is a good guy and who is a bad guy.