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Post by winternett »

JohnFen wrote: post #590
winternett wrote: post #582

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I really haven't found any problems in collecting 320k Mp3s as a producer myself. I think if most people knew the real way most modern music is produced and mastered now (on laptops), and how a lot of masters and music catalogues behind the scenes are literally re-encoded from mp3 backups, they'd see that lossless music is not an exact science. Flac is also not universally supported by playback devices, and can becom…

Regardless of how good high bitrate MP3s can technically be, my experience with MP3s has been poor. I can't remember the last time I got one that was of good enough sound quality that it didn't annoy me to listen to it. That's why I go with lossless encodings. They aren't a guarantee of good sound quality, but the odds of them being so are much, much higher. Personally, I don't actually care about whether or not FLAC…

I understand. I think the reason why they charge more for lossless is the additional bandwidth required to download them. Cloud host providers charge based on bandwidth, so they pass that cost on to buyers. I do know 320k VBR is usually undesireable, sometimes converting a 320k Mp3 back to WAV can cure some problems with frequency loss and artifacts... I don't know the specific answer to your dilemma, as flac formatted files are not usually something I use. Best of luck though! :/

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Post by codethief »

willcipriano wrote: post #160
codethief wrote: post #157

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What kind of mats are those?

They look like this: https://www.amazon.com/ROVSUN-Anti-Fatigue-Drainage-Non-Slip...

Thanks! So why do you think does it help with your back pain?

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Post by thedaly »

nluken wrote: post #468
iainctduncan wrote: post #465

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You are making some wildy off base assumptions. I'm not a finance guy, I'm a hacker. We do technical diligence . I was a developer for 20 years and am doing a music and CS phd right now. I've slung code in over a dozen languages, I'm the open source developer of Scheme for Max and the csound6~ port to Max, an electronic composer, and a gigging musician. I am currently bootstrapping a music education product in Python…

Apologies on misunderstanding your role here, most of the speculation on this thread has been related to finances and staffing so I made an assumption there when I shouldn’t have. > I have purchased tons of music on it, and the articles have not made any difference to me as a user at all n=1, but that’s true of my perspective as well so perhaps it’s a wash. I do think the editorial staff were more important to some g…

I have used the platform for years and have purchased quite a bit of music on it. I didn't even know there were articles.

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Post by kundi »

We've been building a curated (for now) alternative for electronic music to Bandcamp, Soundcloud and Mixcloud called https://formaviva.com

If you're a musician and music lover who enjoys new independent music, we would love to invite you to join our community.

We're also hiring: https://formaviva.com/jobs

PS: I'm one of the community members

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

throwaway290 wrote: post #538
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #188

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According to what musicans? where? What is it the icing on top of? ps. I'm a very tiny musician on BC. I know of no changes that altered BC's utility for me as someone with an album there, or as an avid purchaser of recorded music.

Friends run a band professionally (aka music is their job), they say it's scammy in how they charge their fees, leading to very small or zero revenue compared to other platforms. They say Bandcamp is good at selling physical merch including vinyl, but not digital music

I have no idea what their experience is, but is absolutely not my experience on BC (selling digital music) nor that of anyone else I know.

They have the best margin-to-artist of any music distribution system I am aware of.

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Post by Zambyte »

aendruk wrote: post #328
Zambyte wrote: post #69

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7digital is another source I often use.

This 7digital? https://0x0.st/HJov.png I get the impression they really don’t want me to figure out how to buy music from them.

This 7digital: https://us.7digital.com/

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Post by DiggyJohnson »

coldtea wrote: post #519
DiggyJohnson wrote: post #463

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This is an egregious comment. Why are you assuming the GP was satisfied in making this point. You are assuming the worst in this person just because you disagree.

No, I assume it because of the way they phrased their answer

Right, that’s what I’m saying is so out of line. Their phrasing was simply concise, you shouldn’t be so comfortable reading into it any more than that.

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Post by vonjuice »

JohnFen wrote: post #587
vonjuice wrote: post #420

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Those people don't listen to music, they consume background sound. I don't care if it sounds snob, that's how most people treat music.

This is an interesting point, actually. I rarely play music in the background when I'm doing other things -- but I listen to a lot of music. When I do, I put an album on and listen to it with my full attention. In other words, I listen to music like other people watch movies. It was only in the last few years that I learned that I was unusual in this.

That's how truly good albums shine, specially if you do it in the dark, you can travel to different worlds :) But yeah most people don't have the patience.

Can I safely assume that you also listen to some albums multiple times to get to know them? If so I'd like to know which are some of your favorites.

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Post by wutwutwat »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #435
wutwutwat wrote: post #25

Bandcamp is an odd site. It's existed for a very long time and is simple (or was when I last used it a couple years ago) in terms of application requirements. Basically what I'm saying is it feels very much like a rails app you could build in a weekend. Direct upload mastered files to s3 from the artists, activejob to convert to various formats and throw back to s3 via activestorage, subdomain model scoping for artis…

> Basically what I'm saying is it feels very much like a rails app you could build in a weekend. Downvoted solely for that comment. Honestly, I feel like it's so tiresome and lazy with the "X could be built in a weekend" or "Why does Y need so many employees?" comments. Sure, I've worked at companies that were easily overstaffed, and it's not hard to find some slack in any sizable company. But these kinds of comments…

To you and everyone else saying "you can't reproduce the business in a weekend" or that I'm overlooking that side of things, I specifically said "like a rails apps you could build in a weekend" because I was talking about... THE APP. I never did and never would claim that the user base, traction, brand recognition, or label deals could be replaced in a weekend. I was only speaking about the simplistic and minimal set of features for the bandcamp.com product. My words made it pretty clear what I was talking about so it feels like people choosing to view it as me saying the business side is more complex are just looking for an argument or to "tell me how it is". The logic here makes no sense. I DID NOT mention the business yet you people are giving me shit saying the business can't be replicated in a weekend. Where the F did I say that it could?! I SPECIFICALLY talked about an APP, and you're ignoring that key word and fighting me over something I never claimed.

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Post by nomel »

vintermann wrote: post #522
nomel wrote: post #412

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All the revenue goes into a big pot, then split up [1]. That pot is 95% premium users [2]. [1] https://support.spotify.com/us/artists/article/royalties/ [2] https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/120314/spoti... .

It's separate pots for ad listens vs. subscriber listens. AFAIK there are also separate pots by country, since subscription fees and profitability of ad markets vary widely by country.

Do you have a reference for this? If the pots are different, what's the practical difference, when the majority of the profits, and payout, comes from premium?
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