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Re: Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

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NAT means we can work with IPv4 already and makes IPv6 moot. you just supported my argument. Honestly, all they had to do was add alpha characters. Just doing so would have gave us more IP addresses than we ever needed while keeping it human readable.

So use onion routing.

you are missing the forest from the trees. the point is, simpler solutions were available.

Re: Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

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> It adds unnecessary overhead to small packets Are you forgetting that NAT exists? IPv4 is barely functional based on how many workarounds we've had to implement over the years

NAT means we can work with IPv4 already and makes IPv6 moot. you just supported my argument. Honestly, all they had to do was add alpha characters. Just doing so would have gave us more IP addresses than we ever needed while keeping it human readable.

I change my default gateway from 192.168.0.1 to C0.A8.00.01. Is the problem fixed yet?

Re: Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

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Case History: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/15573090/united-states-...

The delays were partially due to COVID then later he was able to get it caught up with SCOTUS review of criteria for denaturalization.

But geez his backstory is wild. Iranian born, escaped with parents to Dubai. Started his business in his bedroom at 16. Bought quite a rock for his sweetie back in 2012 (https://youtu.be/FhPiC7zC7wA). She divorced him after everything came undone. Apparently they have a lot of stuff in storage in London. Amazing what you can find in 15 minutes with google.

Re: Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

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NAT is a strong argument against IPv4 -- it's an absolute pain in the ass for bidirectional communication. Yeah, NAT acts as a defacto firewall, but you can just... use a real firewall.

> it's an absolute pain in the ass for bidirectional communication You're right and that's what I love about NAT, IPv6 in contrast is a hacker/spy tracking digital superhighway right through my front door and straight into my devices.

You could assign your devices IPs from fc00::/7 range otherwise known as "Unique local unicast"[1], which is the IPv6 version of 10/8, 192.168/16 and the like.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unique_local_address

Re: Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

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> Prosecutors showed that each of those shell companies involved the production of notarized affidavits in the names of people who didn’t exist. As a result, the government was able to charge Golestan with 20 counts of wire fraud — one for each payment made by the phony companies that bought the IP addresses from ARIN.

Golestan created 20 companies under false names. And wrote 1 check from each company. Which means 20 cases of (money) wire fraud.

What’s funny here is the chain of laws used to get to a prosecution. Apparently creating twenty companies under twenty false names was not illegal enough.

Re: Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

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Honest question, why are we not all just on IPV6 now? It seems like at this point almost all the underlying hardware and software should support it? It seems like the only argument for sticking with IPv4 is NAT, but I can't think of a technical reason we couldn't do NAT with IPv6?

NAT is a strong argument against IPv4 -- it's an absolute pain in the ass for bidirectional communication. Yeah, NAT acts as a defacto firewall, but you can just... use a real firewall.

Question from an ignorant network person: is IP rotation still common on ipv6? My primary fear with IPv6 is the touted "feature" of every device having an IP. While it's possible, yea, it sounds like a nightmare for privacy and tracking.

Do the proponents of IPv6 also advocate for large ranges of IP rotations to deal with this?

Re: Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

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Move to ipv6 already

ipv6 is such a failure. even if it eventually 'takes over', its still a failure. Its over engineered for something customers didnt ask for (an ip address for every grain of sand in the universe). There's something to be said about a human readable IP address. Where you can't tell a person the address, you have to copy and paste. where you cant infer any information about the IP address just by looking at it. It adds…

> an ip address for every grain of sand in the universe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable_universe estimates 10^53 kg in the observable universe.

10^53 kg / 2^128 = 10^14 kg per address, though I have no idea what fraction of the universe is sand.

In practice, the number of allocations is much smaller because IPv6 is effectively a 64 bit address space, with the second half reserved for edge networks.

> There's something to be said about a human readable IP address.

Is 2a01:4f8:1c1c:f6aa::1 really so unreadable, given that every device needs a different number?

Re: Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

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NAT is a strong argument against IPv4 -- it's an absolute pain in the ass for bidirectional communication. Yeah, NAT acts as a defacto firewall, but you can just... use a real firewall.

Question from an ignorant network person: is IP rotation still common on ipv6? My primary fear with IPv6 is the touted "feature" of every device having an IP. While it's possible, yea, it sounds like a nightmare for privacy and tracking. Do the proponents of IPv6 also advocate for large ranges of IP rotations to deal with this?

Every major OS uses the IPv6 privacy extensions by default. Short version: your device frequently picks a new address at random.

Re: Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

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White collar crime getting a lengthy custodial sentence is not the normal.

Do you have evidence/data to back this up?

My view on it is coloured by the way my country chases down social welfare fraud, but hardly tried with white collar crime which hits the country far harder [1].

The second link [2] is about the US.

[1] https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300878382/newsable-bill...

[2] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47477754

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