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Re: Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

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Post by Olipro »

DonHopkins wrote: post #14

I know somebody who basically stole a class A IP network many years ago, in the very early days of IPV4. (He wouldn't tell me which one, but he had inside knowledge of how the system worked, and I know his background, so I believe him. ;) The huge company that owned it went out of business, so he registered their domain name, and sent in an email to authorize the transfer. Once you've got a hot class A network on you…

Nobody's going to run a /8 on a single LAN segment.

If you want maximum efficiency, your hosts all have RFC1918 IPs and you route the public IP addresses to them. zero wastage, everything usable.

Re: Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

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Post by cortesoft »

goalonetwo wrote: post #19
janosdebugs wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess you missed this part: > Prosecutors showed that each of those shell companies involved the production of notarized affidavits in the names of people who didn’t exist.

No I didn't. I'm wondering how putting someone that is arguably a smart entrepreneur behind jail for 5 year is going to better our society. We need to think about the bigger picture and how this fits into rehabilitation.

Smart people who are willing to commit fraud for profit are some of the most dangerous people in our society. Stupid people are limited in the damage they can do.

Re: Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

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Post by staringback »

autokad wrote: post #36
lalith_c wrote: post #2

Move to ipv6 already

ipv6 is such a failure. even if it eventually 'takes over', its still a failure. Its over engineered for something customers didnt ask for (an ip address for every grain of sand in the universe). There's something to be said about a human readable IP address. Where you can't tell a person the address, you have to copy and paste. where you cant infer any information about the IP address just by looking at it. It adds…

> It adds unnecessary overhead to small packets

Are you forgetting that NAT exists? IPv4 is barely functional based on how many workarounds we've had to implement over the years

Re: Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

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Post by SteveNuts »

JoshGlazebrook wrote: post #37
belter wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IPv4 addresses are like Socks. You can never have too many...

Now just to find where those missing ipv4 addresses are going along with those missing socks.

Probably lost in the "smart" dryer.

Re: Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

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Post by DonHopkins »

Olipro wrote: post #41
DonHopkins wrote: post #14

I know somebody who basically stole a class A IP network many years ago, in the very early days of IPV4. (He wouldn't tell me which one, but he had inside knowledge of how the system worked, and I know his background, so I believe him. ;) The huge company that owned it went out of business, so he registered their domain name, and sent in an email to authorize the transfer. Once you've got a hot class A network on you…

Nobody's going to run a /8 on a single LAN segment. If you want maximum efficiency, your hosts all have RFC1918 IPs and you route the public IP addresses to them. zero wastage, everything usable.

That's the joke! Imagine not getting caught these day running a giant routable stolen class A network on a single LAN segment. It would require Trump-level audacity!

Re: Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

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Post by mtillman »

belter wrote: post #21
kstrauser wrote: post #9

The underlying crime was wire fraud, and it happened to be about acquiring IP addresses. He wasn’t prosecuted because he got too many, but for how he got them.

IPv4 addresses are like Socks. You can never have too many...

Please tell me this was a SOCKS pun.

Re: Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

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Post by overgard »

Honest question, why are we not all just on IPV6 now? It seems like at this point almost all the underlying hardware and software should support it?

It seems like the only argument for sticking with IPv4 is NAT, but I can't think of a technical reason we couldn't do NAT with IPv6?

Re: Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

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Post by add-sub-mul-div »

goalonetwo wrote: post #19
janosdebugs wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess you missed this part: > Prosecutors showed that each of those shell companies involved the production of notarized affidavits in the names of people who didn’t exist.

No I didn't. I'm wondering how putting someone that is arguably a smart entrepreneur behind jail for 5 year is going to better our society. We need to think about the bigger picture and how this fits into rehabilitation.

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Re: Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

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Post by [deleted] »

avar wrote: post #38
A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #6

This highlights something tangential, but interesting nevertheless: Oftentimes getting embroiled in a civil lawsuit will, if impropriety is uncovered via the process of discovery, lead to separate criminal charges. The lesson here is that if you have something to hide, and it looks like you're going to be dragged into civil court (especially Federal civil court,) you should rush to settle or beg for arbitration behin…

Wouldn't it be better to rush to a country without an extradition treaty with the US?

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Re: Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

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Post by c7DJTLrn »

overgard wrote: post #47

Honest question, why are we not all just on IPV6 now? It seems like at this point almost all the underlying hardware and software should support it? It seems like the only argument for sticking with IPv4 is NAT, but I can't think of a technical reason we couldn't do NAT with IPv6?

The effort required to make a company IPv6-enabled is not to be underestimated.
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