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Piped – An alternative privacy-friendly YouTube front end

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I have to say that the crypto space is doomed and nobody cares about decentralization, but the technology behind it enables doing exactly this: 1 backend and many different clients. IMO this is the future - breaking monopolies with separation of powers a la John Locke

the problems people have with crypto does not include 'decentralization'

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post #29

The privacy argument is extremely important, also in regards to avoiding tracking via ads, but I do not think bypassing or blocking ads is the way forward. In the free democratic world, we really should aim to do better than this, and instead try to actually develop privacy respecting alternatives that is not going to undermine the internet, further empower the big players, or hurt website owners unnecessarily – incl…

Blocking ads is also a perfect example of a Kantian non-universalizable maxim.

I don't think Kant, or any reasonable philosopher, would consider blocking ads a moral dilemma, which is the precondition of a maxim.

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I have to say that the crypto space is doomed and nobody cares about decentralization, but the technology behind it enables doing exactly this: 1 backend and many different clients. IMO this is the future - breaking monopolies with separation of powers a la John Locke

I think what you are trying to get into is decentralized technologies.

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These won't be supported forever

You'd be surprised, I had some old Symbian phone with some really ancient Youtube app and it still was working couple years ago. The phone's screen eventually died, so I can't check now

Wasn’t the Wii’s YT client infamously long lived?

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post #32

How long until YouTube figures out how to block all of this stuff like Piped and Invidious etc.? I feel like a better answer would be alternative platforms.

impossible without also blocking end users or requiring premium. even if they required a login, the video can be scraped.

They have been working towards requiring chrome, but that won’t work unless they close source it and lock down developer tools and apis, which would be a death sentence for chrome.

Re: Piped – An alternative privacy-friendly YouTube front end

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The privacy argument is extremely important, also in regards to avoiding tracking via ads, but I do not think bypassing or blocking ads is the way forward. In the free democratic world, we really should aim to do better than this, and instead try to actually develop privacy respecting alternatives that is not going to undermine the internet, further empower the big players, or hurt website owners unnecessarily – incl…

The issue with YouTube isn’t the ads, it is the number and length of ads combined with a monthly premium option that is far too expensive for what it offers.

You may make the argument that YouTube includes music, but the quality and capabilities of the platform are very poor compared to competitors.

$5/mo is about the most I would ever pay.

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post #26

With a name like "Piped" I wonder if it's related to the NewPipe app, one of my favorite apps on Graphene OS and something that I really wish existed on iOS.

Piped is indeed 'related' to NewPipe: Both NewPipe and Piped use "NewPipe Extractor" to extract Video information (AFAIK including stream data) from streaming sites like YouTube.

I believe the main difference is that NewPipe is an Android App frontend and Piped is a web frontend with the Extractor library as a core dependency.

Which makes the NewPipe Extractor library a great starting point for building more, different frontend applications.

Disclaimer: I'm no expert and this is an oversimplified explanation.

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I find that YouTubes recommendation algorithm is not great. It would be a cool feature to be able to something like assume a persona and have recommended videos that similar like minded people watched. There's effectively infinite videos on YouTube but it's common I can go there looking for a video and find nothing interesting to watch. In some cases it's pushing recommendations for videos all similar to a recent video I had watched, but I'm no longer interested in that topic

Re: Piped – An alternative privacy-friendly YouTube front end

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If this is too off-topic please just ignore it (and don't DV). I want to embed YT videos on a website, but we would like them to be as private as possible. For example, DDG has a player which shields the watcher from YT's data hoovering. Any suggestions? Perhaps the search terms I'm using are wrong?

You can embed videos from an Invidious instance instead; on a video's page[1] there's an "embed video" link[2] you can use. The instance can be one hosted by you if you don't trust public ones, and you probably want to enable proxying by default if you don't want your clients to stream the video directly from Google's servers. You can also use a browser extension like libredirect[3] to automatically replace YouTube embeds with Invidious ones while browsing the web.

[1]: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=xzTH_ZqaFKI

[2]: https://yewtu.be/embed/xzTH_ZqaFKI

[3]: https://github.com/libredirect/browser_extension

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