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NY bill would require a criminal history check for the purchase of a 3D printer
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It's definitely not a bad time to join 3d printing industry. Much more mature than what it was even 5+ yrs ago
What’s a good use for them? I have been on the cusp of buying or building one for many years, but outside of the occasional desire to 3D print a random replacement or enhancement part for something, such as a new back for my minidisc player, which I can do via mail order 3D printing, all the examples at say Microcenter are just admittedly neat-looking but ultimately useless chintzy plastic goods.
Many public libraries have 3d printers these days. I don't see the appeal of owning one unless you're a serious hobbyist or cosplayer.
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#73I should buy a 3D printer. At university I knew a man who said any time the government wanted to make something illegal to buy he felt a compulsion to buy it. I think I see what he means now.
That’s the vestigial spirit of your American heritage right there. Embrace it. Not American? Either way, I say embrace it.
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#74What makes a 3D printer different from a lathe or a CNC?
ITAR is all over the lathe/CNC world - I'm an industrial/controls engineer, and have to do compliance reviews, "production of arms" forms, and "destination control statements" for the machines we build. The main difference is that cheap 3D printers are $200 and can be carried to your bedroom, instead of $200k+, requiring riggers and 3-phase power. Yes, you can buy old Bridgeports and Pacemakers on Craigslist, or chea…
> No, this law won't prevent someone clever and determined from building a 3D printer with some aluminum scraps, an Arduino, and a few steppers.
Or driving to NJ or PA and buying one there.
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Honestly I did the same thing with guns. All that propaganda about obama coming to take our guns had me hook, line, and sinker.
It’s definitely starting to look like some of the gun rights groups are just an advertising arm of the gun manufacturers.
That’s a bit like calling the (old school) ACLU an advertising arm of the book printers.
Re: NY bill would require a criminal history check for the purchase of a 3D printer
#76That amendment is so overly broad the author should be forced to re-take some sort of how to draft bills class. It would require fingerprinting for purchases of "certain 3D printers". What does that even mean? I guess the existing law defined what "firearm" means in the context of that law, but if I was a retailer selling 3D printers, I would have some serious questions about it. My 5-year-old entry level 3D printer…
It's so tiring to have these kinds of conversations with folks who do not understand the legislative process. There's no need to treat the legislator like an idiot. She's doing what EVERY legislator does, which is to identify a problem ("printed guns are a loophole in how we manage guns in this state") and saying she wants to find a solution to that problem. One mechanism by which legislators do that is by writing dr…
If I was somehow tasked to come up with the worst imaginable way to generate laws which impact the day-to-day lives and liberties of an entire civilization, I quite sincerely doubt whether I could do much better than this.
Re: NY bill would require a criminal history check for the purchase of a 3D printer
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
What’s a good use for them? I have been on the cusp of buying or building one for many years, but outside of the occasional desire to 3D print a random replacement or enhancement part for something, such as a new back for my minidisc player, which I can do via mail order 3D printing, all the examples at say Microcenter are just admittedly neat-looking but ultimately useless chintzy plastic goods.
Mail order 3D printing is just extremely expensive. Honestly, I’ve enjoyed designing custom pieces for board games.
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Re: NY bill would require a criminal history check for the purchase of a 3D printer
#78That amendment is so overly broad the author should be forced to re-take some sort of how to draft bills class. It would require fingerprinting for purchases of "certain 3D printers". What does that even mean? I guess the existing law defined what "firearm" means in the context of that law, but if I was a retailer selling 3D printers, I would have some serious questions about it. My 5-year-old entry level 3D printer…
It's so tiring to have these kinds of conversations with folks who do not understand the legislative process. There's no need to treat the legislator like an idiot. She's doing what EVERY legislator does, which is to identify a problem ("printed guns are a loophole in how we manage guns in this state") and saying she wants to find a solution to that problem. One mechanism by which legislators do that is by writing dr…
> There's no need to treat the legislator like an idiot.
But the legislator is an idiot, and should be treated like one. They aren't identifying a problem and trying to solve it, they are engaging in performative legislation for the benefit of their donors. That should not be rewarded, on either side of the aisle.
Re: NY bill would require a criminal history check for the purchase of a 3D printer
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's definitely not a bad time to join 3d printing industry. Much more mature than what it was even 5+ yrs ago
What’s a good use for them? I have been on the cusp of buying or building one for many years, but outside of the occasional desire to 3D print a random replacement or enhancement part for something, such as a new back for my minidisc player, which I can do via mail order 3D printing, all the examples at say Microcenter are just admittedly neat-looking but ultimately useless chintzy plastic goods.
Board game organizers are my source of interest. Kickstarter-type games, especially, often need more efficient organizers than the designers included in the box. And it’s very difficult (in my experience) to get useful off-the-shelf organizers, particularly if you want everything to fit snugly in the original box.
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