Recipe blogs are the most horrible example. The amount of BS you have to scroll through to get to the actual recipe.
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#32This is why I use ChatGPT and Kagi over Google search now.
Same, but perplexity.ai for me. Search enabled LLMs that can slog through the search results for me is where it's at.
But LLM's don't really do that. They take the shape and context of your prompt and respond with a corresponding shape of text.
But im sure there's some hybrid in the works that will be very helpful soon.
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#33Recipe blogs are the most horrible example. The amount of BS you have to scroll through to get to the actual recipe.
I've recently noticed a lot of them have a "skip to the recipe" link on top which just scrolls down. Kind of ridiculous.
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#34Recipe blogs are the most horrible example. The amount of BS you have to scroll through to get to the actual recipe.
Often, I like getting the context & history of a recipe. When researching foreign dishes these things help me understand a lot about what might be acceptable ingredient substitutes.
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#35This is why I use ChatGPT and Kagi over Google search now.
A few weeks ago, I had a question and I couldn't find the answer with Wikipedia or with internet searches. So I asked ChatGPT. I got an answer. Even better, it was sourced... Except that the source was a Wikipedia page that I had read and that didn't contain what I wanted. ChatGPT's answer was "fouled up beautifully", as Donald Knuth would say. A plain search is just a link and a quote, while the IA's answer is an ed…
Hallucinations have always been a problem with transformers. But with the replication crisis in many sciences and political meddling abound, I‘d be wary of any kind of critical information, especially on Wikipedia. Of course, transformer models have the same issues since they are trained on tainted info too.
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#36Had to spend some good 5 minutes to unaccept all default cookies settings… only to see a fucking paywall.
I’ll add the telegraph to the list of websites I don’t bother opening, next time it’s either archive link or I don’t care what they have to say.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Therefore, there will be no more incentive to create those types of sites. There will also be no more incentive to create sites with actual useful information since AI will just appropriate it. AI will destroy the source of its training data.
The sites with actual useful information don’t need much effort to create and maintain. If it was all just wikis it’s perfectly great. The problem only became when “entrepreneurs” realized they can game this system to gain money.
I'm struggling to think of a site I use regularly that could function without either adverts or someone else (businesses, donations, or the site owner) putting money to fund it, and I honestly can't think of one. The modern internet just wouldn't function if we took entrepreneurship out of it.
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#38https://archive.md/fQPTD
Thanks a lot!
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Therefore, there will be no more incentive to create those types of sites. There will also be no more incentive to create sites with actual useful information since AI will just appropriate it. AI will destroy the source of its training data.
Wikipedia is not going to stop. Your local cinema is not going to stop posting movies and show times on their website. The only sites that are going to be hit by this are those that make money on ads.
My local cinema doesn't have a website. It uses social media instead.
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#40The web thrived for a decent number of years with ads before it began to really spiral down. For me the biggest cause of that spiral was the shift from most users using desktops to most users using mobile to interact with google. In the desktop search world, google used to respond with large comprehensive articles on subjects that not just answered peoples questions but also educated them on the subject around their…
The salvation of the web lies in banning all the normies and mobile users.