As an example, google are knowingly profiting from rip-offs: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-56886957
Why are there still three ads before the official government site if I search for "apply esta"?
Google has sent internet into 'spiral of decline', claims DeepMind co-founder
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#12Information online is “buried at the bottom of a lot of verbiage and guff”, Mr Suleyman argued, so websites can “sell more adverts”, fuelled by Google’s technology. I think we are at a turning point in this regard. AI can now read through SEO fluff text and ads and present the user with the information they are looking for. Therefore, there will be no more incentive to create those types of sites. The web will change…
It already changed on the mobile space, native apps have reclaimed what the browser took away on the desktop.
Ironically many Web sites packed as Web widgets are no different from the same site being delivered from the Webserver.
Re: Google has sent internet into 'spiral of decline', claims DeepMind co-founder
#13It feels a bit hypocritical to bash on the company that acquired your startup.
Why it would be hypocritical? Living in capitalism is not hypocritical, it's the reality.
Assuming capitalism works the way it's proponents are saying it works, it doesn't matter who you sell the company to - the market will find the optimum regardless. If you're making a sub-optimal decision to sell company to someone else, the free market should self-correct this. So if you believe in capitalism, your individual moral decisions do not matter.
On the other hand, if you don't believe in capitalism, then it is not hypocritical to play by the rules of the system while campaigning for the system to change, because you want the rules to affect everyone, not just you.
Re: Google has sent internet into 'spiral of decline', claims DeepMind co-founder
#14It feels a bit hypocritical to bash on the company that acquired your startup.
In what way is that "hypocritical"? Maybe "disloyal" would be the applicable term, but "hypocritical"? I just don't see that this is "characterized by behavior that contradicts what one claims to believe or feel".
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#15It feels a bit hypocritical to bash on the company that acquired your startup.
In what way is that "hypocritical"? Maybe "disloyal" would be the applicable term, but "hypocritical"? I just don't see that this is "characterized by behavior that contradicts what one claims to believe or feel".
if he believes his company was Good Co. and he sold it to Bad Co., he made money from enshittification, the same enshittification he's talking about which is how Google makes money.
Re: Google has sent internet into 'spiral of decline', claims DeepMind co-founder
#16Information online is “buried at the bottom of a lot of verbiage and guff”, Mr Suleyman argued, so websites can “sell more adverts”, fuelled by Google’s technology. I think we are at a turning point in this regard. AI can now read through SEO fluff text and ads and present the user with the information they are looking for. Therefore, there will be no more incentive to create those types of sites. The web will change…
> Therefore, there will be no more incentive to create those types of sites. There will also be no more incentive to create sites with actual useful information since AI will just appropriate it. AI will destroy the source of its training data.
Wikipedia is not going to stop. Your local cinema is not going to stop posting movies and show times on their website.
The only sites that are going to be hit by this are those that make money on ads.
Re: Google has sent internet into 'spiral of decline', claims DeepMind co-founder
#17Information online is “buried at the bottom of a lot of verbiage and guff”, Mr Suleyman argued, so websites can “sell more adverts”, fuelled by Google’s technology. I think we are at a turning point in this regard. AI can now read through SEO fluff text and ads and present the user with the information they are looking for. Therefore, there will be no more incentive to create those types of sites. The web will change…
> AI can now read through SEO fluff text and ads and present the user with the information they are looking for. Little comfort when so much of that fluff is now being AI generated. There becomes a point at which we dilute the quality of the information on the web so much, the detail is just lost. AI generating summaries of AI generated garbage is not going to create a better web. I’ve been reading AP News recently,…
We're heading into a future where text is generated by language models, then other language models are used to generate summaries for human consumption. We will drown in AI bullshit and then use more AI to try and extract the meaningful kernel.
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#18It’s not just Google. The idea of a search engine leading to web pages with useful information itself has existed long enough to be gamed to the bottom. A new paradigm has to emerge and take over. The LLMs seem like the first real viable alternative but I feel like we are still in the lycos days of this paradigm.
Re: Google has sent internet into 'spiral of decline', claims DeepMind co-founder
#19Information online is “buried at the bottom of a lot of verbiage and guff”, Mr Suleyman argued, so websites can “sell more adverts”, fuelled by Google’s technology. I think we are at a turning point in this regard. AI can now read through SEO fluff text and ads and present the user with the information they are looking for. Therefore, there will be no more incentive to create those types of sites. The web will change…
> AI can now read through SEO fluff text and ads and present the user with the information they are looking for.
So? Google can do that too. They just choose not to, for profit reasons.
AI can (presumably) also do that. But will AI companies instead choose profit? Of course they will.
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#20It feels a bit hypocritical to bash on the company that acquired your startup.
In the words of Sundar Pichai: “can we change the settings of this group to history-off”