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Re: YouTube gets reminder to follow EU law over Hamas content

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Post by nine_k »

hyperhopper wrote: post #10
oneplane wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Screw everyone who wants to enforce their sovereign laws when you do business on their turf? That seems a bit shortsighted.

While I agree with the idea of your comment: Whose turf is the Internet?

The Internet is a space: it does not belong to anyone as a whole.

What the EU is trying to enforce is accessibility of certain internet content on their land; it's like building a wall on a parcel of land you own, to prevent stuff from entering from elsewhere. Wise or not, it's not an unreasonable kind of desire.

Re: YouTube gets reminder to follow EU law over Hamas content

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

gowings97 wrote: post #9
thatguy0900 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they ignore the EU, the EU actually gets a chance to home grow a competitor that can then challenge them internationally once it's had time to grow. Google would probably happily lose money to the EU every year to stop a native English baidu or yandex from being built.

That keeps being paraded around but is extremely unlikely. It would have happened by now

You think so?

Because Facebook is so entrenched in what they offer that Google tried and couldn’t put a dent into them.

These companies are doing everything they can at all time to prevent being unseated.

I was talking with the CEO of a super popular clothing brand about 10 years ago. He knew completely that brands have a life span and you can’t stop every competitor or changing interests. This is baked into the model. You can now get these cloths at Walmart, part of the lifecycle.

Tech companies have figured out a way to extend the “hot” duration of their brands. You literally can’t get at them until they are on the down slope.

Re: YouTube gets reminder to follow EU law over Hamas content

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Post by megous »

gumballindie wrote: post #27
megous wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In EU, and not worried at all by pro-Palestinian protests. Thank you.

Thats a dubious statement - I wrote about terrorist action sympathisers and you wrote about pro Palestine. Nonetheless people have died in france and the army is getting deployed while schools are getting closed in the uk and people told to hide their identity due to said terrorist action sympathisers - which btw have _nothing_ in common with plastine “freedom”.

Don't write ambiguously, then.

Re: YouTube gets reminder to follow EU law over Hamas content

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Post by nine_k »

charbroiled wrote: post #17

Stated purpose of law: prohibits advocating genocide. Actual effect of law: prohibits preserving evidence of genocide. I know there’s, broadly speaking, a difference in how freedom of speech is defined in America versus Europe. The (slightly inflammatory) description above is why I personally find the “European” definition distasteful.

Yes, this is one of the most important problems with well-meaning censorship.

Objectionable content should not be deleted, but instead clearly marked, and possibly require some extra verification steps to access. But it should not be deleted and forgotten, if for nothing else then as an evidence for future crime investigations.

Re: YouTube gets reminder to follow EU law over Hamas content

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Post by gumballindie »

megous wrote: post #33
gumballindie wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thats a dubious statement - I wrote about terrorist action sympathisers and you wrote about pro Palestine. Nonetheless people have died in france and the army is getting deployed while schools are getting closed in the uk and people told to hide their identity due to said terrorist action sympathisers - which btw have _nothing_ in common with plastine “freedom”.

Don't write ambiguously, then.

Thats ambiguous for you for some reason. Pretty clear for anyone else - or perhaps anyone else outside the eu, which kinda strengthens my point of view. Nonetheless Palestine rights are moot for the coming century, but thats a different topic.

Re: YouTube gets reminder to follow EU law over Hamas content

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Post by nine_k »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #32
gowings97 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That keeps being paraded around but is extremely unlikely. It would have happened by now

You think so? Because Facebook is so entrenched in what they offer that Google tried and couldn’t put a dent into them. These companies are doing everything they can at all time to prevent being unseated. I was talking with the CEO of a super popular clothing brand about 10 years ago. He knew completely that brands have a life span and you can’t stop every competitor or changing interests. This is baked into the mode…

> Because Facebook is so entrenched in what they offer that Google tried and couldn’t put a dent into them.

I'd say it's because Google was so inept at trying to do so, the way TikTok wasn't.

Also I wonder why such brands like Nintendo, Mitsubishi, General Electric, Ford Motors, Philips, Siemens, etc all exist for a century or more, and likely will for another century. What kind of secret have these tech bros discovered?

Re: YouTube gets reminder to follow EU law over Hamas content

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Post by nemo44x »

gumballindie wrote: post #27
megous wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In EU, and not worried at all by pro-Palestinian protests. Thank you.

Thats a dubious statement - I wrote about terrorist action sympathisers and you wrote about pro Palestine. Nonetheless people have died in france and the army is getting deployed while schools are getting closed in the uk and people told to hide their identity due to said terrorist action sympathisers - which btw have _nothing_ in common with plastine “freedom”.

Why did Europe do this to themselves? I’ve seen the numbers and I’m sorry, but it isn’t sustainable. Especially when you factor in reproduction rates. Western Europe will be conquered by a caliphate within 100 years. A democratic colonialism.

Re: YouTube gets reminder to follow EU law over Hamas content

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Post by [deleted] »

nemo44x wrote: post #37
gumballindie wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thats a dubious statement - I wrote about terrorist action sympathisers and you wrote about pro Palestine. Nonetheless people have died in france and the army is getting deployed while schools are getting closed in the uk and people told to hide their identity due to said terrorist action sympathisers - which btw have _nothing_ in common with plastine “freedom”.

Why did Europe do this to themselves? I’ve seen the numbers and I’m sorry, but it isn’t sustainable. Especially when you factor in reproduction rates. Western Europe will be conquered by a caliphate within 100 years. A democratic colonialism.

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Re: YouTube gets reminder to follow EU law over Hamas content

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Post by nemo44x »

Why is the EU singling this type of content out in particular? Surely anything Hamas would release would be considered with skepticism as the EU has a very different tradition. Are they nervous the residents of the EU would quickly become assimilated to the culture of Hamas based on their propaganda videos? I can’t imagine that happening. I don’t get it - why is this different?

Re: YouTube gets reminder to follow EU law over Hamas content

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

nine_k wrote: post #36
SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You think so? Because Facebook is so entrenched in what they offer that Google tried and couldn’t put a dent into them. These companies are doing everything they can at all time to prevent being unseated. I was talking with the CEO of a super popular clothing brand about 10 years ago. He knew completely that brands have a life span and you can’t stop every competitor or changing interests. This is baked into the mode…

> Because Facebook is so entrenched in what they offer that Google tried and couldn’t put a dent into them. I'd say it's because Google was so inept at trying to do so, the way TikTok wasn't. Also I wonder why such brands like Nintendo, Mitsubishi, General Electric, Ford Motors, Philips, Siemens, etc all exist for a century or more, and likely will for another century. What kind of secret have these tech bros discove…

BS on Google just didn’t try hard enough.

All those companies are continually changing their product. Google, sells ads people chose to look at. Facebook sells data people chose to give.

These are not diverse models.

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