It's definitely somewhat annoying when they don't exist. For example I had to build a relatively simple feature that required a user scroll down, and its not completely obvious sometimes that you should do so due to the lack of scroll bars. So I had to force them on.
Scrollbars are becoming a problem
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Re: Scrollbars are becoming a problem
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And when you finally have a along controls everything is overloaded. Dish forced a new remote on us last time a device broke and they replaced it. It has far fewer buttons. I’m sure it helps getting familiar with it on a super basic level. But the old one wasn’t that complicated anyhow. But here’s the kicker: there’s no fast forward or rewind buttons. There no stop button. No record button. All of these (and more) ha…
The worst offender of this is the Apple TV remote. Most of my actions with the Apple TV remote have been unintentional.
Apple TV remotes have always been so awful.
I remember when Front Row for the Mac was announced. I loved Front Row (although the supported content was far too limited).
But despite Fromt Row’s limited functionality and simplistic interface, the Apple Remote still didn’t feel adequate.
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... Ya know, I haven't thought about that before, but screens are a lot brighter now aren't they. I wonder how much of the dark mode thing is just that the old good defaults are now eye-burningly bright, so of course people don't like them as much.
Screens can get brighter now, but if your screen is too bright, that's entirely on you. Adjusting the brightness is trivial and you can even do it without using the buttons on the display (DDC/CI).
My phone's lowest brightness is way too high for night use (yes even with a blue light filter), it's super annoying.
Re: Scrollbars are becoming a problem
#694It's not just scrollbars. It's the elimination of window borders. Aside from not being able to differentiate one window from another similarly colored window in the background, it's nearly impossible to click and hold on anything along the edge to resize the window. It's the overloading of the title bar with so much shit like search boxes and extraneous buttons that a user has almost no place to grip to move the wind…
Resizable windows are an outdated concept, full-screen applications with tiling capability (think emacs) are much better. Add multiple workspaces just as they are today and it is perfect. Unfortunately Windows and MacOS don't really support this kind of environment very well. Sure you can tile windows, but they are still windows. When you open an application it is not immediately tiled or opened in another workspace…
> full-screen applications with tiling capability (think emacs) are much better
That's just a tiling window manager that's crippled by only being able to show windows from one program.
Re: Scrollbars are becoming a problem
#695Earlier quoted context omitted.
And when you finally have a along controls everything is overloaded. Dish forced a new remote on us last time a device broke and they replaced it. It has far fewer buttons. I’m sure it helps getting familiar with it on a super basic level. But the old one wasn’t that complicated anyhow. But here’s the kicker: there’s no fast forward or rewind buttons. There no stop button. No record button. All of these (and more) ha…
The reverse of that is the 4-in-one replacement remote with it's bazillion buttons. It's like a 747 cockpit.
At least everything is in a designated place!
That’s another thing I like about the analog world.
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I often wish we had more analog control in the digital world. I wish there were turn knobs instead up/down buttons with 10 steps (where it is easy to accidentally leave a menu... When trying to get back to where you were, you are suddenly adjusting something else entirely). Manual control with digital devices has become too digital and too cumbersome. It used to be easy to adjust contrast and brightness on a display,…
Most plugins used in music software do take that approach. Where the plugin interfaces are modelled to look 'like hardware' in most cases, with nobs, sliders, all the things you'd expect on a hardware compressor / synth etc. I like it.
But then you have to “draw circles” with your mouse?
Re: Scrollbars are becoming a problem
#697In Firefox, I also add the following to userChrome.css to make the scroll thumb high-contrast versus the scroll bar itself. The default Firefox colors are, in my opinion, too low-contrast.
:root {
scrollbar-color: rgb(35,75,240) rgb(220,222,224) !important;
}
Resulting appearance: https://imgur.com/a/A1LTS4M
Re: Scrollbars are becoming a problem
#698Earlier quoted context omitted.
I often wish we had more analog control in the digital world. I wish there were turn knobs instead up/down buttons with 10 steps (where it is easy to accidentally leave a menu... When trying to get back to where you were, you are suddenly adjusting something else entirely). Manual control with digital devices has become too digital and too cumbersome. It used to be easy to adjust contrast and brightness on a display,…
This is actually one of the things I love about my Mini Cooper; they have cool physical toggle switches that feel like you're in a cockpit instead of the all-digital interfaces that feel like a coffee bar.
My 2014 GLK is like this. Mostly, somewhat.
Not getting anything newer until they figure it out!
Re: Scrollbars are becoming a problem
#699It's not just scrollbars. It's the elimination of window borders. Aside from not being able to differentiate one window from another similarly colored window in the background, it's nearly impossible to click and hold on anything along the edge to resize the window. It's the overloading of the title bar with so much shit like search boxes and extraneous buttons that a user has almost no place to grip to move the wind…
I know it's not for everyone but my mostly keyboard workflow is actually grateful that not much real estate is sacrificed for places to drag.
Re: Scrollbars are becoming a problem
#700It’s very funny and strange that one of the defining characteristics of modern GUI design is that everything is very large. Lots of whitespace, buttons twice as tall as the cursor, windows that have to be maximized in order to see more than seven lines of content, and yet the scrollbars are the size of a toothpick.
everything that doesn't count is very large. Things that count are small.
I always have to scale Windows to 150% or 125 % because of that.