Austria rail operator OeBB unveils new night trains

Post by abhayhegde » Tue, Oct 10, 2023, 1:48 AM UTC

xyzelement wrote: post #218

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As someone who has traveled on OBB and non-acela Amtrak, how would you describe Acela journey? Is it a significantly better experience?

I mean its very hard to compare an overnight train experience with a few blues Boston to NYC. The Acella is fine you have a large seat with some space around you and pretty crappy wifi. Definitely more comfortable than a coach airline seat maybe in line with business class space and comfort wise but otherwise not that not worthy.

Post by explaininjs » Tue, Oct 10, 2023, 5:20 AM UTC

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Why not? If it’s truly about the environment then everyone should pay based on their environmental impact. Sure, if carbon/methane/whatever can be shown to have a higher environmental impact when emitted at altitude or whatever, take that into account. But placing the environment second to specifically target the “luxury” as some sort of way to “get” the rich is only harming your case.

No. It's about maximizing value per emission. The value of luxury goods is less than basic necessities (it's stuff we can live without by definition) so the rate should compensate for that. I would accept a flat rate if each person got a fixed amount of emissions assigned to them and each person could decide to sell or keep their "emission right". Then everyone would have enough for basic needs. In practice the resul…

Post by LargoLasskhyfv » Thu, Oct 12, 2023, 12:14 PM UTC

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reacharavindh wrote: post #175

I have taken the car train from Hamburg to Vienna as a family. Pure luxury and comfort! We drive from Denmark to Hamburg(with a 2 year old), and load the fully packed car(stroller, luggages gifts for the in-laws etc) into the train at a special entrance, and walk into the coaches. We booked a private cabin/room for more privacy and also because we have a two year old. There were quite comfortable bunk booths as well…

This, like many other ideas combining cars and public transport, sounds like something that doesn't scale. The exact numbers vary, but the passenger capacity of a car train is usually something like 1/2 of a normal night train or 1/3 of a normal day train, assuming that the train is fully dedicated to carrying people with cars. You also need special facilities and longer stops, because cars can't just dismount at nor…

Post by BowBun » Fri, Oct 13, 2023, 3:17 PM UTC

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It's interesting to me how you lob the words 'luddite' and 'wishing misery' at the most basic suggestion of moderation of abstinence from trips to Spain (or equivalent). I shudder at what words you must surely reserve for those that systemically privatize food, water, and shelter - things we actually need to survive.

And yet the author failed to explain how self flagellation and abstinence from proscribed behaviour will change anything