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How old are you? I bet you a pound you're 40, or thereabouts. Trust me, your eyesight is becoming worse...
I got a downvote. OK, let's upgrade that to 2 pounds ;) (Of course, that was a lot of money when we were both young...)
Scrollbars are becoming a problem
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duuuuuude for real a11y? what kind of weird lingo flex is that?
It's a longstanding abbreviation for "accessibility", along the same lines of i18n being an abbreviation for internationalisation. There's the first letter, and the last letter, and between them a count of the number of letters elidded.
Greek, Latin and .
Re: Scrollbars are becoming a problem
#153It's not just scrollbars. It's the elimination of window borders. Aside from not being able to differentiate one window from another similarly colored window in the background, it's nearly impossible to click and hold on anything along the edge to resize the window. It's the overloading of the title bar with so much shit like search boxes and extraneous buttons that a user has almost no place to grip to move the wind…
Doesn’t a heavy drop shadow solve the window border problem? Although these days those seem to be fading or disappearing as well.
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> It's blatant how UI designers don't give a damn about the users' needs, not even in FOSSland. Especially with this new "don't theme my app" movement. It's really unfortunate. The issues with CSS stylesheets in GTK should be solved with replacing CSS with a better way to describe styles, not with just throwing it all away and not letting the user set their own themes.
There's also the consideration that a decent style sheet can be ~100 - 200 lines long. Yet I see ~5000 line css files that have so much custom formatting for JS frameworks that build everything with divs, rather than using semantic HTML5 which has accessibility baked in.
The first type of CSS can be written succinctly, but the second cannot.
Re: Scrollbars are becoming a problem
#155It's not just scrollbars. It's the elimination of window borders. Aside from not being able to differentiate one window from another similarly colored window in the background, it's nearly impossible to click and hold on anything along the edge to resize the window. It's the overloading of the title bar with so much shit like search boxes and extraneous buttons that a user has almost no place to grip to move the wind…
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Why do you find it hard to read?
I have astigmatism. Bright on dark renders with lens flares. On a computer I can just use light mode and it’s fine. Driving at night … I really hate bright lights on tall SUVs. Here’s an example of what it looks like (glasses help): https://beta-ctvnews-ca.cdn.ampproject.org/i/s/beta.ctvnews....
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#157Re: Scrollbars are becoming a problem
#158I actually love having a small scrollbar. On Firefox, I have it as a tiny sliver that only shows up when scrolling. :root{ scrollbar-width: thin; } And: user_pref("widget.non-native-theme.scrollbar.style", 3); user_pref("ui.scrollbarDisplayOnMouseMove", 0); in about:config You can have minimaps enabled in Emacs and Firefox, but I don't see a use for them, to be honest.
The only scroll bar I ever use as a scroll bar is the one in VS Code, which I absolutely love. Displayed next to a miniature, much taller version of your document, with little bands for highlighted or searched for variables, that scroll bars is, in my opinion, peak design.
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#159Whenever I read a piece like this or another UX blog, it just becomes so obvious how little we care about a11y. “Good” (as in accessible) design is pretty boring and decluttered compared to most modern expectations of web apps. I read Adam Silver’s book on forms and came away realizing that we’re doing it entirely wrong from an a11y standpoint but that’s just not a priority.
I find it ironic that in order for your comment to be accessible the reader must lookup “a11y” to find that it means “accessibility”.
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#160Once again I have to give firefox credit for giving users the tools in about:config to disable this. It's cute fluff at best and annoying/abusive at worst. The browser's UI should more or less be fully off the table when it comes to what a website can change, and that includes scrollbars.
I have a very strong recollection of adamantly defending IE6's ability to style scroll bars on forums in the early 2000s, whereas the Mozilla crowd at the time called it an abomination.
As an older man with both the power of hindsight and the weakness of failing sight, I can admit I was wrong. It's far too apt to abuse