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Atlassian Acquires Loom

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Re: Atlassian Acquires Loom

#111

Glad for the founders, but I cannot help but think this is such an overpriced acquisition for a glorified screen capture tool and ecosystem. Now you can attach videos to jira tickets, seems a bit overkill.

At 25M users it's about $40 per user, and Atlassian needs some kind of screencast data to bolster their future in training project management models. Also, they can afford it, so it's a good time to get into the market.

Re: Atlassian Acquires Loom

#112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In what world is loom something no one asked for? I, and my team, use it everyday and have at my past two jobs as well. For engineers it’s a life saver being able to share a quick video of some code and the bug youre getting (or asking what some piece of code does) and also forcing junior engineers to do this for a PR guarantees the feature works/is a form of QA.

Coming from a deep, shameful corner of ignorance, but what's special about recording a screen and sharing it via the comms tool of choice (IM, Slack, Signal, e-mail)? I do love the idea of sharing a screen recording of features though.

They're not necessarily buying it just for the tech; I have no doubt that Atlassian could build their own version of Loom.

I'd guess that a big part of it is customer acquisition and then raising prices or ramping customers to other Atlassian products.

Re: Atlassian Acquires Loom

#113
Atlassian has a record of failed acquisitions: Bitbucket, HipChat, Trello, OpsGenie,.. and the list goes on. Add Loom to that list.

In this market, when every single collab company is struggling, Atlassian goes and acquires a collab company when there are so many companies in the DevTools space or get your pick in AI. Spending a billion on a video sharing tool? Unsure what they were thinking and who all are advising the founders. I see the Aussie connection though..

Re: Atlassian Acquires Loom

#114

For anyone else curious, Loom raised $205M with the last round at a $1.5B valuation. This deal is for $975M in cash. Sources: - https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/loom - https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenli1/2022/03/14/nearly-bro... - https://twitter.com/andrew__reed/status/1712458243883110599?... (Edit: formatting)

Without knowing the specific of their last round, does anyone have an idea of what selling at roughly 2/3 of their previous valuation likely means for their employees? I know that VCs typically have some kind of "upside protection" in later rounds that guarantees them first money out in the event of a sale on some multiple of their investment, but I don't know what terms are common.

The startup system is pretty rigged against accidentally making anyone rich who is a mere employee. That money is for the investors, not the working class. The days of the office assistant making millions on stock are long gone. There's options with huge tax implications, long vesting periods, the investors get preferred stock, they get guaranteed multiples, if there's a down round there's a carve-out that you won't be part of.

Not only do the investors have priority shares over employees, each investor can negotiate a guaranteed multiple. For example if they put in 100 million for 10% ownership but also had a 5X multiple guarantee and a sale price of 1 billion then the 500 million they walk away with ends up being 50% of the sale price. That part of the agreement isn't made public as far as I know.

Re: Atlassian Acquires Loom

#116

This make perfect sense. Atlassian is cornering the market of "features nobody ask for but make for good sales pitch to clueless managers".

In what world is loom something no one asked for? I, and my team, use it everyday and have at my past two jobs as well. For engineers it’s a life saver being able to share a quick video of some code and the bug youre getting (or asking what some piece of code does) and also forcing junior engineers to do this for a PR guarantees the feature works/is a form of QA.

I've been using Peek for this for years and never thought it was a billion dollar feature

Re: Atlassian Acquires Loom

#117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Coming from a deep, shameful corner of ignorance, but what's special about recording a screen and sharing it via the comms tool of choice (IM, Slack, Signal, e-mail)? I do love the idea of sharing a screen recording of features though.

It’s well-executed and convenient. That’s worth a lot.

This discussion reminds me of when Dropbox was at ShowHN and someone was commenting on how this could be done with FTP.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863

Re: Atlassian Acquires Loom

#118
Can Atlassian just for once first go and stabilize their existing product lineup before trying to shoehorn yet another thing into their offering?

I mean, it's basic stuff that just isn't possible on JIRA Cloud for example, like setting a global sender address for notification emails - something perfectly possible on on-premise installations, but on Cloud you have to do that for each project and you can't even set it up as a default for new projects.

Or maybe what about a first-party Terraform provider. Or a support that's actually worth the name instead of underpaid callcenter employees that seem to have to strictly follow some sort of script instead of actually being allowed to use their brains or to properly read what customers write them.

That billion $ they just dumped out on this acquisition could have been invested into their existing products.

Re: Atlassian Acquires Loom

#119

This make perfect sense. Atlassian is cornering the market of "features nobody ask for but make for good sales pitch to clueless managers".

In what world is loom something no one asked for? I, and my team, use it everyday and have at my past two jobs as well. For engineers it’s a life saver being able to share a quick video of some code and the bug youre getting (or asking what some piece of code does) and also forcing junior engineers to do this for a PR guarantees the feature works/is a form of QA.

Command+shift+5 is built into OSX

I find the loom extension redundant and glitch prone

Re: Atlassian Acquires Loom

#120
Loom is an excellent piece of software, but from my perspective in IT I've never been able to justify it's ROI.

I've been always pushing for it to go away as soon as had to start looking at SaaS spend. Looking at the analytics only a few power users really made use of it while the biggest majority of users never used to record or maybe only recorded 1-2 videos a quarter. It was too expensive and video is very expensive to run on the cloud.

Zoom released a competitor recently and that must be killing them. Other companies are also offering cheaper alternatives and egress traffic for video-centric businesses is crazy expensive.

They had layoffs not so long ago, like many companies, and during my last negotiations with them they were very aggressive with pricing. Aggressive to the point of their executive team asking what amount we wanted to pay, and they actually committed to the price we offered...

Glassdoor reviews and Blind comments weren't good at that time either, but that is true for most companies. I think they couldn't keep the revenue curve up-to-the-right to offer a decent return to their investors and it was turning more into an OK business. Time to sell, stay there for a year and move on to start their next thing. For Atlassian is a relevant acquisition, especially as they are also focusing more into chasing freshdesk or zendesk as a customer support platform.

I wish them the best, as I said, the product itself was very well designed and engineered compared to any other alternatives out there. I think they missed to make it relevant and a must have for companies, maybe focusing more to sale to sales and customer experience/support teams which tend to have big budgets compared to other teams.

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