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Re: Ardour 8.0

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

dist-epoch wrote: post #60
diggan wrote: post #2

Looks to be a extensive update with lots of new and useful features, thanks as always PaulDavisThe1st :) Especially Arrangement and Quick Groups will be good time savers for me! > For several years, people downloading Ardour for macOS have had to deal with various kinds of messages (from Apple) saying things like "This program comes from an untrusted source" to "The file is damaged". As of Ardour 8, macOS users downl…

They didn't do that for the Windows version though: > Because we object to paying Microsoft for the privilege of allowing you to more easily use our work, this application is unsigned (more information here).

We will likely start doing Windows notarization during the 8.x series. Our friends at Harrison, who make Mixbus (based on Ardour) already figured it all out a long time ago; it's a bit more complex than the macOS version of the process.

Re: Ardour 8.0

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

junon wrote: post #79
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #67

As usual, the lead developer (c'est moi) is happy to answer any questions.

I've used Cubase historically, but started and now have transitioned back to FL Studio since I can get my thoughts and ideas out quicker than in Cubase. I've seen Ardour for a long, long time but haven't ever tried it. What, if anything, would I be missing by switching? I primarily do composition, so lots of VSTs etc.

FL Studio is a very, very different sort of DAW than, well, just about every other DAW (including Ardour). If you were moving from Cubase, Logic, Studio One, ProTools, Digital Performer etc., then I'd say you would miss very little by switching to Ardour other than some of the builtin plugins for those DAWs.

But if you have become used to the FL Studio workflow, Ardour (and the list of DAWs above) are likely to feel clunky and unproductive.

Re: Ardour 8.0

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

croes wrote: post #76
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The opposite of Ready-to-run is source code.

But to get "Just download and run Ardour on your Linux, macOS or Windows computer." I have to click Ready-to-Run Program -> Download Ardour 8.0 for Windows 64 bit -> Download Demo -> Download Ardour 8.0 for Windows 64 bit (Demo) Each on a separate page, a little bit misleading because the first button already suggests a download

When we put it all on one page, too many people failed to understand the process. We can please some of the people all the time, but we can't please all the people all the time.

Re: Ardour 8.0

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Post by junon »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #82
junon wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've used Cubase historically, but started and now have transitioned back to FL Studio since I can get my thoughts and ideas out quicker than in Cubase. I've seen Ardour for a long, long time but haven't ever tried it. What, if anything, would I be missing by switching? I primarily do composition, so lots of VSTs etc.

FL Studio is a very, very different sort of DAW than, well, just about every other DAW (including Ardour). If you were moving from Cubase, Logic, Studio One, ProTools, Digital Performer etc., then I'd say you would miss very little by switching to Ardour other than some of the builtin plugins for those DAWs. But if you have become used to the FL Studio workflow, Ardour (and the list of DAWs above) are likely to feel…

Good to know, I didn't mind Cubase's workflow per se, it's just that Cubase was 1) super buggy and unstable, and 2) ridiculously expensive, and updates cost a lot. That also factored into leaving.

I'll give Ardour a try, thanks for the response and congrats on the release!

Re: Ardour 8.0

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Post by ta8645 »

The What's New page says they support the "Novation Launchpad Pro", but the picture beside that paragraph actually is the much more expensive "Novation Launchpad Pro [MK3]". (Ambiguous product names like this are mildly infuriating)

Does anyone know if both the cheaper and more expensive devices are compatible with Ardour 8?

https://novationmusic.com/products/launchpad-pro

https://novationmusic.com/products/launchpad-pro-mk3

Re: Ardour 8.0

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Post by prokoudine »

pilaf wrote: post #78
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll add a percentage control to the VS dialog. Then you can upgrade to 8.1 and get the benefit of interview mode ripple editing.

Hey Paul! Thanks so much for Ardour first of all, and double thanks for this awesome generosity. I didn't know about interview mode, I'll read up on it. Looking forward to 8.1!

From the manual (https://manual.ardour.org/ardours-interface/the-toolbox/):

"Within this general behavior several variations are available as Ripple edit modes: [...] 3. Interview. This mode works just like the Selected mode with one exception: when you select a range and press Del, this will remove the selected portion of either audio or MIDI without shifting other clips to the left to match the freed space on the timeline. The main use case for this mode is editing interviews where you want the ripple behavior to edit out e.g. periods of silence, while being able to just delete e.g. an out-of-place noise or an exclamation by the interviewer."

Re: Ardour 8.0

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Post by javier123454321 »

_fat_santa wrote: post #51

How does Ardour compare to something like Logic Pro or Ableton?

It honestly does most things that these do, but I do find ableton to be a bit more intuitive. The workflow is a bit different, sessions are given more importance in ableton while the timeline feels like the __main__ way of working in ardour. The piano roll is integrated in the timeline which is a nitpick thing that I don't love about ardour. All in all, you can do basically the same things, but for some reason I do feel like it takes just a bit more work in ardour. But I'm an amateur hobbyist, so I prefer the OSS version.

Re: Ardour 8.0

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

ta8645 wrote: post #85

The What's New page says they support the "Novation Launchpad Pro", but the picture beside that paragraph actually is the much more expensive "Novation Launchpad Pro [MK3]". (Ambiguous product names like this are mildly infuriating) Does anyone know if both the cheaper and more expensive devices are compatible with Ardour 8? https://novationmusic.com/products/launchpad-pro https://novationmusic.com/products/launchpad…

Your first link is to an older version of the Launchpad Pro that Novation no longer sells or makes. The Mk3 is the current version of the Launchpad Pro.

As our release notes indicate, we hope/plan to announce support for the cheaper Launchpad X and Mini during the 8.x development process.

Re: Ardour 8.0

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

klaussilveira wrote: post #88

I miss the "Beat Maker" interface from FL Studio. It is like Bread and Butter.

FL Studio is a very, very different DAW from most others. If you get used to it, then most other DAWs are going to feel as if they are lacking something (though they will typically have something that FL Studio doesn't have, too).
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