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Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Re: Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Post by Yoric »

pixl97 wrote: post #50
dopeboy wrote: post #40

There's another big factor at play: it's become increasingly easier to film yourself in combat and now encouraged by leadership for propaganda reasons. I've been going to r/combatfootage everyday for the past ~3 years; it has exploded in popularity because like a lot of things in life, war is now recorded and disseminated wide. The ukraine war, specifically with drones outfitted with explosives, has shown this. GoPro…

I would say there has always been demand for war footage. The difference is now the actual footage is not filtered by governments, propaganda firms, and typical news media sensibilities. The internet is mostly everywhere, and seemingly everyone has some kind of device capable of filming high definition footage. Even if it's not encouraged, it's still going to be very, very difficult to stop unless you turn off parts…

It's a good observation.

However, we need to keep in mind that just because it's not filtered by propaganda agents at the source doesn't mean that it cannot very easily be turned into propaganda. And that's even without counting the relative ease of manufacturing images (with or without AI).

Re: Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Post by hotnfresh »

DSingularity wrote: post #16
hotnfresh wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a guaranteed unproductive flame war. The exact same flame war that’s been happening about as long as the Internet has existed. It’s really boring at this point.

Just stop at unproductive. We don’t expect comments on HN to upend the power-structures which fuel this ongoing conflict. Calling it boring — as if it had the potential to entertain - seems an bit insensitive to all the victims of the current and past hostilities.

JFC. Boring in the sense that exactly nothing new is going to be posted and anyone who’s seen a couple of these could write entire exchanges that will happen basically verbatim. The discussion is guaranteed to be 100% a repeat of all the other ones. So, boring.

Re: Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Post by ycm_tmp »

MattGaiser wrote: post #55
ycm_tmp wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was a Sabbath/holiday - many (primarily Orthodox) Jews don't use phones/computers, etc.

If anything then, shouldn't there have been a larger spike? Wouldn't this qualify as a reason to override?

Absolutely, if you know there's something to check. A lot of people who don't use phones on Sabbath/holidays just didn't know what was happening, or at least not the scale of it.

Re: Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Post by junofan »

hotnfresh wrote: post #62
DSingularity wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just stop at unproductive. We don’t expect comments on HN to upend the power-structures which fuel this ongoing conflict. Calling it boring — as if it had the potential to entertain - seems an bit insensitive to all the victims of the current and past hostilities.

JFC. Boring in the sense that exactly nothing new is going to be posted and anyone who’s seen a couple of these could write entire exchanges that will happen basically verbatim. The discussion is guaranteed to be 100% a repeat of all the other ones. So, boring.

I dunno, a thousand terrorists coordinating land, sea, and air (paraglider and drone) over WhatsApp with videographers posting professionally editing footage to Telegram in real-time is actually pretty interesting.

Re: Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Post by DSingularity »

junofan wrote: post #64
hotnfresh wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

JFC. Boring in the sense that exactly nothing new is going to be posted and anyone who’s seen a couple of these could write entire exchanges that will happen basically verbatim. The discussion is guaranteed to be 100% a repeat of all the other ones. So, boring.

I dunno, a thousand terrorists coordinating land, sea, and air (paraglider and drone) over WhatsApp with videographers posting professionally editing footage to Telegram in real-time is actually pretty interesting.

Funny we call them terrorists while hundreds of millions view them as freedom fighters trying to liberate their lands. I wonder if the East and the West are destined to just always collide. The staunch support by the western governments for their permanent-colony experiment in Palestine (ie Israel) is what leads to millions of Middle Easterners continually hating western governments.

Re: Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Post by KRAKRISMOTT »

pixl97 wrote: post #51
KRAKRISMOTT wrote: post #49

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That subreddit disproportionately censors and removes videos from the other sides. Avoid it unless you enjoy Kool aid

Then visit other subreddits that don't. There are plenty of them.

Yes Funker530 is very good. They don't pick their winner and losers

https://funker530.com/

Re: Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Post by hotnfresh »

junofan wrote: post #64
hotnfresh wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

JFC. Boring in the sense that exactly nothing new is going to be posted and anyone who’s seen a couple of these could write entire exchanges that will happen basically verbatim. The discussion is guaranteed to be 100% a repeat of all the other ones. So, boring.

I dunno, a thousand terrorists coordinating land, sea, and air (paraglider and drone) over WhatsApp with videographers posting professionally editing footage to Telegram in real-time is actually pretty interesting.

The news may be interesting. No open-registration forum has generated an interesting thread about this topic since the very first such discussion that ever happened. It's basically one of those laws of the Internet.

Re: Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Post by nec4b »

throw_m239339 wrote: post #19
barcode_feeder wrote: post #3

I'm a late adopter of HN, but was a bit surprised to see nothing about Israel/Hamas on the home page. Is that sort of political stuff forbidden, or is there just no interest in this community?

> I'm a late adopter of HN, but was a bit surprised to see nothing about Israel/Hamas on the home page. Is that sort of political stuff forbidden, or is there just no interest in this community? Because it isn't reddit. I'm sure this forum is full of Israeli but also Muslim devs, do you really want that kind of strife on HN? I don't. There is no way that kind of discussion will not devolved into a giant mess. It's ev…

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Re: Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Post by nemo44x »

vel0city wrote: post #30
gumballindie wrote: post #27

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Sounds good to me. But you need to have ownership documents for it and means for transport. I’ll trade anytime.

Why should I provide your means of transport? Did the person you bought your home from provide you transport as well? You're getting so much extra land! You figure out how to make it useful. Sure seems like you don't actually want it if you need me to subsidize you by billions of dollars to use it. Maybe it's not a great deal? Maybe there's a reason why the Israelis and Palestinians are fighting over that land instea…

Yeah that’s the whole problem really. It’s not arbitrary land they’re fighting over. It’s that land and it can be no other land. I don’t know how it resolves in any way we find tasteful by modern standards.
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