Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack • Hacker News Board

Re: Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Post by piotrrojek » Sat, Oct 07, 2023, 5:50 PM UTC

temp10723 wrote: post #29

bobthepanda wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html The guideline criteria say not to submit flamebait, to submit things with interesting, novel intellectual discussion, and generally nothing that is on tv news. I would imagine that the decades long Israeli/Palestinian conflict would violate all three.

> I would imagine that the decades long Israeli/Palestinian conflict would violate all three. So would the Russian/Ukrainian conflict, and yet[1] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30450336

Slightly offtopic, but it's interesting to read comments from that day knowing what we know now. Especially those stating that there will be no conventional war nor loss of life.

Re: Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Oct 07, 2023, 5:53 PM UTC

l3mure wrote: post #39

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no interest in showing Israel being attacked but there is plenty of political discussion such as daily flamewars about ancient misdeeds of US three letter agencies (but almost never discussions when these agencies shut down a botnet or do something positive). These rules are either applied unfairly or the community is full of shills that make it appear that way.

> but never discussions when these agencies shut down a botnet https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35445867 (121 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37310772 (171 comments)

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Re: Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Oct 07, 2023, 5:53 PM UTC

bobthepanda wrote: post #9

jakozaur wrote: post #5

The data shows huge mobile uptick. So if a tragedy happen, a lot of people watch videos on their mobile phones. Not having data, but I observed similar phenomena in Poland during first week of Russia reinvasion of Ukraine. So many people glued to phones during all kind of situations.

If you are fleeing your house at the last minute of stuck at work you are not dragging a desktop with you. The phone is a powerful portable device; if it works, use that instead of a hand crank radio.

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Re: Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Post by konstantinua00 » Sat, Oct 07, 2023, 5:56 PM UTC

bobthepanda wrote: post #4

MattGaiser wrote: post #2

With the 2nd graph, I am surprised it is that low given that full scale war is basically ongoing. Was some internet cut off in Israel as a result of the attacks?

There might also be network congestion; I would consider this the rate of traffic able to reach Cloudflare.

once again, Cloudshare limits the internet

Re: Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Post by inglor_cz » Sat, Oct 07, 2023, 5:57 PM UTC

gumballindie wrote: post #22

TulliusCicero wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, the status quo in Israel/Palestine is pretty garbage, and practically guaranteed to lead to conflict.

I know but i seriously wish there was a way to end all these boring primordial habits of ours and focus on stuff that matters, as a collective humanity.

These habits may be the other side of our civilizational coin. Technological development tends to surge during wars.

Re: Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Post by pronouncedjerry » Sat, Oct 07, 2023, 5:58 PM UTC

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Re: Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Post by selfhoster11 » Sat, Oct 07, 2023, 5:59 PM UTC

gumballindie wrote: post #22

TulliusCicero wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, the status quo in Israel/Palestine is pretty garbage, and practically guaranteed to lead to conflict.

I know but i seriously wish there was a way to end all these boring primordial habits of ours and focus on stuff that matters, as a collective humanity.

I don't think we can ever change as a species to that extent while still being ourselves. The instincts that sit at our core have been there for hundred thousand years or so.

Re: Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Post by ycm_tmp » Sat, Oct 07, 2023, 5:59 PM UTC

MattGaiser wrote: post #2

With the 2nd graph, I am surprised it is that low given that full scale war is basically ongoing. Was some internet cut off in Israel as a result of the attacks?

It was a Sabbath/holiday - many (primarily Orthodox) Jews don't use phones/computers, etc.

Re: Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Post by KRAKRISMOTT » Sat, Oct 07, 2023, 5:59 PM UTC

dopeboy wrote: post #40

There's another big factor at play: it's become increasingly easier to film yourself in combat and now encouraged by leadership for propaganda reasons. I've been going to r/combatfootage everyday for the past ~3 years; it has exploded in popularity because like a lot of things in life, war is now recorded and disseminated wide. The ukraine war, specifically with drones outfitted with explosives, has shown this. GoPro…

That subreddit disproportionately censors and removes videos from the other sides. Avoid it unless you enjoy Kool aid

Re: Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Post by pixl97 » Sat, Oct 07, 2023, 6:00 PM UTC

dopeboy wrote: post #40

There's another big factor at play: it's become increasingly easier to film yourself in combat and now encouraged by leadership for propaganda reasons. I've been going to r/combatfootage everyday for the past ~3 years; it has exploded in popularity because like a lot of things in life, war is now recorded and disseminated wide. The ukraine war, specifically with drones outfitted with explosives, has shown this. GoPro…

I would say there has always been demand for war footage. The difference is now the actual footage is not filtered by governments, propaganda firms, and typical news media sensibilities. The internet is mostly everywhere, and seemingly everyone has some kind of device capable of filming high definition footage. Even if it's not encouraged, it's still going to be very, very difficult to stop unless you turn off parts of the global internet to your (nations) users.

Add to this that war is becoming heavily drone based, via both in purpose built weapons and improvised devices that have recording capability built in. War is not something that is far away, but something that is right now on the device you're carrying.