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Re: Brave layoffs

#91
post #56

I'm going to treat this like a product engineering discussion User Story: As a Private Citizen and Engineer, I want a graphical multi-input interface to load, view, interact with and post documents to remote and local HTTP servers ("web-browsing") on any personal computing device. I want web-browsing to have out of the box default security and privacy guardrails that are well documented can be disabled or modified by…

How much are you willing to pay for such a product?

I'm willing to give 100% of Mozilla's CEO salary and move money from unrelated project over.

Re: Brave layoffs

#92
post #34

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That's the same Brave that replaced links with their own profit bringing ad links? Riight.

This never happened as far as I can tell.

It didn’t. They did append their affiliate id to type-ins for a single crypto exchange once. They quickly retracted and apologized.

That’s bad, but not nearly as bad as what the parent commenter described.

Re: Brave layoffs

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> Why aren't we collectively putting our time/effort etc.. into making Firefox the singular and best FOSS browser ever? Because the leadership is hellbent on copying Chrome but worse and investing in utterly pointless endeavors instead of making a good browser. It's a shame. Giving money to the Mozilla Foundation is the same as throwing it to a black hole. I hope a new truly FOSS browser shows up and catches on that…

https://browser.kagi.com/

I just donated $5.65 so, that's something

Re: Brave layoffs

#94
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Tell me about your plan to run and maintain a national network of highways without government "jobs"

Why do you mistakenly believe that government needs to be involved with something like that? There's nothing overly special about an interstate-style highway network. It's essentially just a large number of roads covering a long distance that are connected together, with emphasis on driving speed. The private sector is more than capable of planning, building, connecting, maintaining, and operating roads of all types,…

Private sector highways here in Canada are a disaster and an embarrassment. They have near zero public support (aside from libertarians).

Re: Brave layoffs

#95
Enough is enough. Y'all need to pack it up and go home. The big boy browsers are making features that make websites seem like native applications while y'all are still struggling making css look right. Maybe this is not a brave thing specifically since last I looked brave was based on chromium so should have feature parity with chrome browsers, but then what's the point? Are we just pointing things to different servers in the source (or removing that part) and claiming FOSS/privacy. I'm honestly confused by these alternative browsers.

Re: Brave layoffs

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>Because the leadership is hellbent on copying Chrome but worse and investing in utterly pointless endeavors instead of making a good browser. Is this a hypothesis that we can specify and test? Is this how we would approach this problem? It sounds more like a cynical write-off, not a actual strategy >I hope a new truly FOSS browser shows up and catches on that does not use Blink and isn't owned by a group of human-sh…

> Is this a hypothesis that we can specify and test? Is this how we would approach this problem? It sounds more like a cynical write-off, not a actual strategy There is nothing to test, it's why I stopped using Firefox. Check the Mozilla foundation page for all the crap they fund instead of the browser. Look how much the UI looks like Chrome, even little things like clicking the searchbar expanding it outside its bou…

Yep, they’d need to fire Baker to right the ship at this point, among other things

Re: Brave layoffs

#97

I've been using Brave (quite happily) for years, I was inspired by their initial mission. Reading this article, hearing that they're implementing "price-tiered AI" (~original~), is so antithetical to what I once thought they stood for that I'm ready to ditch. This might sound crazy, but the primary purpose of a browser isn't to improve search results with a custom API (almost none of which compare to vanilla Google),…

> Haven't tried Arc

Jumping from Chromium to Chromium?

Re: Brave layoffs

#98
post #78

I'm going to treat this like a product engineering discussion User Story: As a Private Citizen and Engineer, I want a graphical multi-input interface to load, view, interact with and post documents to remote and local HTTP servers ("web-browsing") on any personal computing device. I want web-browsing to have out of the box default security and privacy guardrails that are well documented can be disabled or modified by…

You’re in the right mindset. I’d recommend a pivot from the “private citizen” persona to the “CTO persona”. As a CTO, I want a web browser based on open standards so that my company’s portfolio of products and internal business apps are protected from monopoly behavior by browser vendors. Mozilla may have forgotten the CTO persona. CTOs can donate engineering hours to Mozilla. Companies can donate money. If companies…

Ugh, the self signed cert “error” scare page is such a dark spot in general purpose computing history

Re: Brave layoffs

#99
post #91
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How much are you willing to pay for such a product?

I'm willing to give 100% of Mozilla's CEO salary and move money from unrelated project over.

Fire Baker for cause and claw back any bonuses / extra compensation. That would indeed be a good start for freeing up some budget

Re: Brave layoffs

#100

We aren't going to see browser competition unless and until we fundamentally rethink what the internet should be. The specifications are simply too complex to foster any meaningful competition. There's too much ground to cover playing catchup and Google has such a large market share that, combined with their data and ad monopoly, allows them to create new specs and features that focus entirely on growing their busine…

Google's browser engine is open source. You can reuse Google's browser engine meaning that you can focus on the features that differentiate your browser instead of implementing the spec like you suggest.

Yes. I see chromium as the linux kernel. Piece of fundamental infrastructure that does the the heavy lifting and one can reconfigure, tweak, add features or eventually fork if needed. Never been easier to build an independent browser.
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