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Lenovo PC boss: 4 in 5 of our devices will be repairable by 2025

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Re: Lenovo PC boss: 4 in 5 of our devices will be repairable by 2025

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Post by dns_snek »

hef19898 wrote: post #101
ClumsyPilot wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look up Lewis Rossman, he runs a repair shop and complains all the time about this

And he is one of the worst eigjt-to-repair advocates there are, given how often he even gets the most basic stuff wrong when it allows to create attention.

> how often he even gets the most basic stuff wrong

Such as? That's an outlandish claim unless you have receipts to back it up.

He does get things wrong occasionally, he's only human after all, but he tends to publish very public retractions which is more than can be said for professional journalists.

Re: Lenovo PC boss: 4 in 5 of our devices will be repairable by 2025

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Post by dmoy »

dmoy wrote: post #91
bsmith wrote: post #16

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What's wrong with the Fairphone?

Can you replace the flash in a fairphone? (If you can, and at near-cost for the flash itself, then it sounds like I'll try to buy a fairphone)

Dang it looks like you can't. It's soldered into the main module? And they don't sell replacement parts for it. You can only send it back to the company. Which I guess is better than nothing.

But also can't seem to figure out how to buy it lol

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Post by d3w4s9 »

freedomben wrote: post #67
PumpkinSpice wrote: post #31

Isn't this a bit of a no-op for Lenovo specifically? I've been using Lenovo-made laptops for years, and never had trouble with DIY repairs - replacing keyboards, screens, batteries, adding RAM, etc. Their devices are pretty modular and DIY-friendly. I wish they made charging plugs easier to replace, as these inevitably get damaged after 1-2 years, but that's really the only complaint I can think of. Is the situation…

No. Some lines are definitely better than others (like I only buy the T-series now), but some are on the same level of Apple minus the hardware DRM

Some T series laptops are already using soldered RAM: https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadt/th...

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Post by concinds »

duped wrote: post #87
intalentive wrote: post #32

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Doesn’t every CPU have a state-enforced back door? I assume no device is secure.

I'm not really worried about state actors that don't have state sponsored industrial espionage.

The US also does extensive industrial espionage. You just don’t hear about it because other developed countries don’t want to harm their relations with the US, and authoritarian countries see no propaganda purpose in disclosing that they’re constantly getting hacked.

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Post by chx »

autoexec wrote: post #121
unethical_ban wrote: post #112

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Not chx, but note that none of the linked articles mention Thinkpads.

All of these links do though and they include examples of more hard coded passwords, more Lenovo spyware, and more insecure Lenovo software that exposed users to threats: https://www.theregister.com/2018/01/26/lenovo_thinkpad_finge... https://www.computerworld.com/article/2984889/lenovo-collect... https://www.crn.com.au/news/thinkpad-vulnerable-in-latest-le... https://www.pcworld.com/article/633410/up-to-100-lenovo-l…

Yeah, this is propaganda as I said.

Now you guys are listing security vulnerabilities when the topic was spyware. Everything has vulnerabilities. They are fixed. So what?

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Post by hakfoo »

jtwaleson wrote: post #169
ToniCipriani wrote: post #163

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Entry level ThinkPads aren't really ThinkPads, the E-series in particular. Those ones were previously known as ThinkPad Edge, which were designed by a different team.

Exactly. Buy T, X or P series. For non-demanding users L series might be OK, but I prefer to buy second-hand / refurbished T series instead. Avoid E series, or at least don't expect any "ThinkPad-ness" from it.

TBH, if anyone else brought a remotely competent eraser pointer to market, I'd probably consider them. Even the hyperconfigurable Framework doesn't offer one.

Sometimes you can find a random business-line HP or Dell with one, but the Dell one I tried (some 7th generation Core i5 I rode for five years at work) was so terrible, especially on scrolling, that I just plugged in an external mouse, and it's a feature that appears on random models intermittently when it does appear, so it might not meet any of my other (admittedly limited) requirements.

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Post by shiroiuma »

orthoxerox wrote: post #46
AraceliHarker wrote: post #3

"(Lenovo) said people buy new smartphones every other year but became accustomed used to buying new PCs every six or seven years. The industry needs to do better at motivating people to buy new devices" https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/05/microsofts-panos-panay-expla...

They are stopping to buy new phones every year too. Modern midrange phones already have every feature you really need, a standard user-replaceable battery would probably kill the whole upgrade cycle.

If we had user-replaceable batteries and easily-upgradable software (think LineageOS) for phones, the upgrade cycle really would be killed.

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Post by shiroiuma »

baz00 wrote: post #53
benoliver999 wrote: post #36

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Oh it's funny you say that, I have a T495 and one of the USB-C ports has stopped working. Luckily there's another one I can charge from but it really feels like a ticking time bomb.

Yeah my ex wife threw something at me and broke the only USB-C on my old T470. Fortunately it has an old charge port.

I guess that's part of why she's your ex-wife?

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Post by makeitdouble »

isykt wrote: post #37

I always hear about how modern laptops and smartphones “aren’t repairable” and then I spent a week in Shenzhen.. where there were floors and floors of independent repair people doing specialized fixes to the most intricate parts. I had an old Apple Watch repair for about $20, only to discover that I got ripped off — I could have negotiated it down to much less.

It works in Shenzhen because the device makers can't stop it. In most other countries they actively do (e.g. cirumventing DRM is a crime)
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