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Lenovo PC boss: 4 in 5 of our devices will be repairable by 2025

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Re: Lenovo PC boss: 4 in 5 of our devices will be repairable by 2025

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Post by diffeomorphism »

AraceliHarker wrote: post #3

"(Lenovo) said people buy new smartphones every other year but became accustomed used to buying new PCs every six or seven years. The industry needs to do better at motivating people to buy new devices" https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/05/microsofts-panos-panay-expla...

So? If the reason is that the new one is far better, that seems fine. If the reason is that the old one broke beyond repair, that is not fine.

Actually, question: at which point in time is it less eco-friendly to keep using an old computer considering power consumption and the fact that for the same amount of work it will need to use more power for a much longer time? 10 years? 20 years?

Re: Lenovo PC boss: 4 in 5 of our devices will be repairable by 2025

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Post by [deleted] »

foooorsyth wrote: post #23
duped wrote: post #19

This is great, but I can't trust a Lenovo device and I'm always a bit shocked when I see developers buying ThinkPads from a company that's demonstrated it can't be trusted to give you a secure device.

I’m out of the loop. Is this sentiment due to Chinese ownership or previous mishaps? Both?

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Re: Lenovo PC boss: 4 in 5 of our devices will be repairable by 2025

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Post by strangesmells02 »

dmoy wrote: post #14
AraceliHarker wrote: post #3

"(Lenovo) said people buy new smartphones every other year but became accustomed used to buying new PCs every six or seven years. The industry needs to do better at motivating people to buy new devices" https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/05/microsofts-panos-panay-expla...

What I want is a frame.work equivalent repairable and parts-replaceable smartphone. I know it's not practical right now because the commodity and consumer-purchaseable parts that go into a framework laptop don't exist for a smartphone analog right now, and the phone would probably be unacceptably large for most people. But I'd buy it if I could just replace the flash myself every 3-5 years, battery every 2-3 years, e…

I have a sneaking suspicion it could easily be done but then the big smartphone dealers wouldnt have you captured on the new phone treadmill.

Re: Lenovo PC boss: 4 in 5 of our devices will be repairable by 2025

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Post by CaveTech »

dmbche wrote: post #38
baz00 wrote: post #27

Step 1: stop soldering USB-C ports to the boards on your thinkpad line as they are NOT replaceable and will end the entire machine if damaged. That is the aforementioned T14 gen 3 in the article.

I don't do a lot of hardware, but they really aren't ? You couldn't remove it and solder another connector in it's place?

Nope, and it's more and more common. I had to trash a $2k monitor due to faulty USB C connector. They require full board replacement.

Re: Lenovo PC boss: 4 in 5 of our devices will be repairable by 2025

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Post by nicolaslem »

hdjjhhvvhga wrote: post #6
some_random wrote: post #2

Fantastic to see and I hope that this extends to upgradability too, it's absurd that the only way to get more storage on so called "professional" products like macbooks is to purchase a brand new one.

There is nothing professional or unprofessional about a device except a name. In the old days, business-targeted devices such as PCs and laptops had user-serviceable parts so that the support could quickly replace a broken fan or faulty memory die and you could get back to work. These days are long gone and I'm sorry to say I blame Apple for a large part of it.

Lenovo, Dell and HP still have lines of business laptops with user-serviceable parts, space parts available, repair guides on Youtube...

Re: Lenovo PC boss: 4 in 5 of our devices will be repairable by 2025

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Post by orthoxerox »

AraceliHarker wrote: post #3

"(Lenovo) said people buy new smartphones every other year but became accustomed used to buying new PCs every six or seven years. The industry needs to do better at motivating people to buy new devices" https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/05/microsofts-panos-panay-expla...

They are stopping to buy new phones every year too. Modern midrange phones already have every feature you really need, a standard user-replaceable battery would probably kill the whole upgrade cycle.

Re: Lenovo PC boss: 4 in 5 of our devices will be repairable by 2025

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Post by nicolaslem »

CaveTech wrote: post #44
dmbche wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't do a lot of hardware, but they really aren't ? You couldn't remove it and solder another connector in it's place?

Nope, and it's more and more common. I had to trash a $2k monitor due to faulty USB C connector. They require full board replacement.

Assuming you can find the part "full board replacement" may not be as bad as it sounds for a monitor. Your main point still stands though, ideally a faulty connector shouldn't require to replace anything besides the connector itself.

Re: Lenovo PC boss: 4 in 5 of our devices will be repairable by 2025

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Post by LeonenTheDK »

Uvix wrote: post #18
bsmith wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's wrong with the Fairphone?

Fairphone is repairable but not upgradable.

Not to mention getting one and its parts outside of the EU is difficult and/or expensive. As a North American I'd be happy to hear if this is different now.

Re: Lenovo PC boss: 4 in 5 of our devices will be repairable by 2025

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Post by bkallus »

CaveTech wrote: post #44
dmbche wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't do a lot of hardware, but they really aren't ? You couldn't remove it and solder another connector in it's place?

Nope, and it's more and more common. I had to trash a $2k monitor due to faulty USB C connector. They require full board replacement.

What stops you from desoldering the bad connector and soldering on a new one?
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