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Re: X rolls out new ad format that can't be reported, blocked

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Pretty sure the company is going to be sold to a private equity firm once it reaches $1b in valuation. There's just no way Musk is going to want to stick around the way things are trending. Premium tiers are not going to come close to replacing the lost revenue to declining ad spend. Especially when it's in a death spiral with increasingly spammier ads causing a flight of higher quality advertisers. And there isn't t…

I doubt he ever sells. He made the purchase because of his ego. As long as he still owns it, he can pretend that there is some future in which the company has value. Selling it for $1b locks in the valuation and confirms the deal was a huge mistake. I don't think he needs that $1b enough for him to be willing to take that hit to his ego.

> He made the purchase because of his ego.

He made the purchase because he was forced to. He didn't want to buy it at all. He was doing his usual trolling thing and got trapped by his own nonsense.

Re: X rolls out new ad format that can't be reported, blocked

#83

Pretty sure the company is going to be sold to a private equity firm once it reaches $1b in valuation. There's just no way Musk is going to want to stick around the way things are trending. Premium tiers are not going to come close to replacing the lost revenue to declining ad spend. Especially when it's in a death spiral with increasingly spammier ads causing a flight of higher quality advertisers. And there isn't t…

> once it reaches $1b in valuation Uhm - Musk paid $44 billion for Twitter. Obviously it's not worth >=$44B currently but it's also obviously still worth more than $1B. Edit: Some people seem to be thinking I'm arguing it's worth >$10B -- I am not. I'm only arguing that it's absolutely worth more than $1B. There are plenty of sources in the past 6 months which have valued it between $3.7B and $8B. There are absolutel…

According to the analysis of Reuters, it's worth around 8 billion.

https://www.reuters.com/breakingviews/elon-musks-x-is-black-...

Re: X rolls out new ad format that can't be reported, blocked

#84
post #38

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"the censorship he disliked "

He claimed to dislike virtually all censorship. A "free speech absolutist" ( https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1499976967105433600 ). That was rapidly shown not to be the case when @ElonJet got snuffed out.

> He claimed to dislike virtually all censorship

He claims all sorts of things, the majority of which turn out to be utter nonsense.

Re: X rolls out new ad format that can't be reported, blocked

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"Legacy media", give me a fucking break.

> "Legacy media", give me a fucking break. Since there's no rebuttal in your reply, consider this a break :) Analog radio, newspapers, and television were already in a managed decline before the 2016 election. The events that unfolded forestalled the inevitable a bit longer, but the music is about to end for these propagandists masquerading as reporters. Trust in legacy media is at a record low.

If radio dies, it would mean that all cars and trucks are automated, as well as all 'outside alone' work like woodwork.

Re: X rolls out new ad format that can't be reported, blocked

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post #64

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Despite continuously making very unpopular moves, I can't see how Twitter loses its users. In fact, I think it will exist long after usage on Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat and TikTok falters -- because, it is less replaceable and less age-demographic dependent. I also think that advertisers will return when budgets increase again. There aren't that many other good options. In the long term, I think it goes nowhere an…

Eh, I deleted my account last October because of his policy changes, and I'm definitely not the only one. It's honestly been great to remove it from my life, I owe Musk for nudging me to get off the platform and have one less social media thing to make me feel crappy.

I didn't mean that literally zero users have left Twitter. But, I do not recognise its replacement by other services (Threads, Bluesky or Mastodon).

Obviously there are people that have cut social media out of their lives, and there are people that belong to Mastodon servers and so on, but this is a small subset of users.

Re: X rolls out new ad format that can't be reported, blocked

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> and the censorship he disliked may return. Banning Nazis is not censorship, it's basic hygiene.

Pre-elon twitter banned some nazis, sometimes, there were still plenty of them around. It also banned a-lot of normal people who were questioning official narratives, people who just so happened to get report-bombed, people who were joking around with eachother about innocuous things that weren't against the ToS, people who governments wanted banned, etc etc. All of that has gotten much better, and appeals are approv…

Do you have any data to back up these claims? My sense has been the opposition, but I also don’t have any data to back it up. So I could be wrong, which is why I don’t make seemingly factual statements like you are.

But you sound so sure that I assume you have data, would you share it?

Re: X rolls out new ad format that can't be reported, blocked

#88
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Why anyone is still on there is beyond me

There are still some high profile people posting great content for free there, especially if you are into tech and/or finance.

True, but I am still surprised that's compelling enough to put up with using Twitter.

Re: X rolls out new ad format that can't be reported, blocked

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Elon Musk doesn't seem to be someone who cares about legality.

Tesla, SpaceX, and the Boring company are all extremely interconnected with government policy and goals. This is quite a claim to make.

Not sure how that counters the assertion that Musk doesn't care about legality, though.

Re: X rolls out new ad format that can't be reported, blocked

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post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He claimed to dislike virtually all censorship. A "free speech absolutist" ( https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1499976967105433600 ). That was rapidly shown not to be the case when @ElonJet got snuffed out.

> He claimed to dislike virtually all censorship He claims all sorts of things, the majority of which turn out to be utter nonsense.

Sure. My response is to someone upthread who claimed Musk scoped his criticism to "censorship he disliked"; I'm pointing out he claimed to dislike basically all censorship, making that a meaningless distinction.
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