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Re: X rolls out new ad format that can't be reported, blocked

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Post by lukev »

b112 wrote: post #24
dangus wrote: post #2

Is this even legal according to FTC guidelines? I thought ads had to be clearly marked in digital content. Either way, whatever. X is dying. I think the mainstream assumes “it’ll never happen, it’s too big to fail.” But it’s not. X really is shrinking and dying. It won’t die this year or next but it’s following in the steps of MySpace, perhaps more slowly. But it’s happening.

There are people who use twitter, who have no idea it changed ownership. Who barely know who Elon is. Twitter may be dying for hackernews, but is it alive for other communities?

The writing/poetry community is basically done there. Authors will still post announcements etc but there's maybe 10% of the community there once was.

Re: X rolls out new ad format that can't be reported, blocked

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Post by riffic »

pennaMan wrote: post #27
throwawayq3423 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and the censorship he disliked may return. Banning Nazis is not censorship, it's basic hygiene.

Did you just speedrun Godwin's law?

there's a parable of a Nazi bar, that was made famous ironically with a tweet.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Nazi_bar

> From an anecdote shared by Michael B. Tager (@IamRageSparkle) on Twitter in July 2020. In the multi-tweet thread, Tager recounted visiting a "shitty crustpunk bar", where he saw a patron abruptly expelled. The bartender explained that the man was wearing "iron crosses and stuff", and that he feared such patrons would become regulars and start bringing friends if not promptly kicked out, which would lead him to realize "oh shit, this is a Nazi bar now" only after the unwanted patrons became too "entrenched" to kick out without trouble

Re: X rolls out new ad format that can't be reported, blocked

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Post by Natsu »

api wrote: post #26
b112 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty sure the company is going to be sold to a private equity firm once it reaches $1b in valuation. There's just no way Musk is going to want to stick around the way things are trending If he did that, it could recover its former might perhaps, and the censorship he disliked may return. Thus he likely wants it dead, rather than in other hands.

The censorship never went away. It just switched from being at one owner's whim to being at a different owner's whim. Closed platforms are not and can never be "free speech zones." They answer to their owners, period.

What sort of topics are currently being censored? I haven't seen examples of things being suppressed, but that's also why I'm asking; because I wouldn't have seen things that got suppressed.

Re: X rolls out new ad format that can't be reported, blocked

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Post by b112 »

throwawayq3423 wrote: post #22
b112 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty sure the company is going to be sold to a private equity firm once it reaches $1b in valuation. There's just no way Musk is going to want to stick around the way things are trending If he did that, it could recover its former might perhaps, and the censorship he disliked may return. Thus he likely wants it dead, rather than in other hands.

> and the censorship he disliked may return. Banning Nazis is not censorship, it's basic hygiene.

I edited my comment. Who was censored is not relevant, instead, the fact that Elon wanted no censorship is.

He didn't buy twitter for profit. He doesn't mind that it's losing money.

Re: X rolls out new ad format that can't be reported, blocked

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

ryanwhitney wrote: post #21
carabiner wrote: post #16

Why is this bad? These superads will enable users to discover more products to improve their lives. Many will be YC companies. Advertising is the root of all good.

I too have been looking to discover which surprising household product is a cure for

If not for one of the ads featured in this article, I would never have thought to pour a bottle of baby oil in my ear to cure my tinnitus. I'm still not gonna do it but the thought would have never even crossed my mind, otherwise.

Re: X rolls out new ad format that can't be reported, blocked

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Post by b112 »

api wrote: post #26
b112 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty sure the company is going to be sold to a private equity firm once it reaches $1b in valuation. There's just no way Musk is going to want to stick around the way things are trending If he did that, it could recover its former might perhaps, and the censorship he disliked may return. Thus he likely wants it dead, rather than in other hands.

The censorship never went away. It just switched from being at one owner's whim to being at a different owner's whim. Closed platforms are not and can never be "free speech zones." They answer to their owners, period.

"the censorship he disliked"

Re: X rolls out new ad format that can't be reported, blocked

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Post by ceejayoz »

pennaMan wrote: post #27
throwawayq3423 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and the censorship he disliked may return. Banning Nazis is not censorship, it's basic hygiene.

Did you just speedrun Godwin's law?

Godwin's on record saying it's fine to make the comparison sometimes.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a56987/godwin-law...

> Godwin wrote on Facebook that someone had asked him to post a statement about Charlottesville, because people bring up his law to shut down arguments all the time. Turns outhe was happy to oblige. "By all means, compare these shitheads to the Nazis," he wrote. "Again and again. I'm with you."

> In general, Godwin has always said you can bring up the Nazis in an online conversation, as long as you're doing some research first. "If you're thoughtful about it and show some real awareness of history, go ahead and refer to Hitler or Nazis when you talk about Trump. Or any other politician," he wrote in The Washington Post backin 2015. But in the case of the white supremacists in Virginia, there's no research necessary to make that comparison. The facts speak for themselves.

Re: X rolls out new ad format that can't be reported, blocked

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Post by AlexandrB »

Despite having a reputation as an innovator, Musk's ideas for improving Twitter revenue seem to amount to squeezing users for more money or otherwise degrading the free experience. This is a playbook that any private equity shark out there could have executed equally well. Not sure how this will ever lead to a viable "everything" app.
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