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Microsoft might want to be making Windows 12 a subscription OS, suggests leak

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Re: Microsoft might want to be making Windows 12 a subscription OS, suggests leak

#71

This is ridiculous. Of course Windows 12 won't require a subscription. It will only be required if you want to disable the native data collection and advertising.

> It will only be required if you want to disable the native data collection and advertising.

maybe to begin with

then the ads and the tracking appear later anyway

Re: Microsoft might want to be making Windows 12 a subscription OS, suggests leak

#72
post #69

Wasn't windows 10 supposed to be the "last windows ever" ? Have been hearing about the subscription windows for 20+ years and it hasn't happened yet.

> Wasn't windows 10 supposed to be the "last windows ever"

Microsoft has never said that.

Edit: since people are still confused.

1. What was said was "...and because Windows 10 is the last version of Windows, we’re all still working on Windows 10". This was said by a Microsoft developer evangelist, never it was an official corporate position or an announcement. And most certainly no one said "ever".

2. You could argue "the last version" meant "the most recent".

3. When Microsoft has been reached for a comment, they produced a usual corporate speech about how Windows 10 is going to be "reflective of the way Windows will be delivered as a service" (whatever this means) but they never confirmed there won't be the next version.

Re: Microsoft might want to be making Windows 12 a subscription OS, suggests leak

#75

That's what people have been saying about Windows for quite a while now. Nothing new here.

Except the part where Windows used to be installed on a machine and that was the end of that. Then Win10 encourages you to use a Microsoft account "for syncing". Then Win11 insisted you use a Microsoft account, making it close-enough-to-impossible for regular users to still use a local account at all.

So there's nothing new here, because MS already started down this path years ago, we're just commented midway through. If they'd gone cloud at Win8, no one would have gone for it. At Win12, after this gradual descent into "listen to my voice, you don't even want a local account, you can't even remember why you ever wanted one in the first place, this is so much less of a hassle", it'd be a fairly easy sell to the masses.

Throw in an yearly subscription plan that buys your company permission to run windows server, where your hardware can act as access point, syncing with MS's infrastructure, but isn't the primary data host, and that sure sounds like something Microsoft would absolutely love to be in charge of.

Re: Microsoft might want to be making Windows 12 a subscription OS, suggests leak

#78

I already dual boot windows 11 and NixOS. I only use Windows for some games on Steam, everything else I do in nix land. (My work computer is a Mac but that could be switched easily as well.) There isn't a world where I would pay a subscription for an OS, given the plethora of good and stable distros of linux (and OSX)

Similar story here, I take it a step further and boot windows as a guest VM with hardware passthrough w/ evdev + ddcutil as a software kvm switch. The only time I boot it baremetal is for programs that are hostile to being run in a VM. It's a good learning exercise, and the community over at /r/vfio + their discord is pretty helpful. Some madlads take it a step further and create something similar to wslg, but with t…

I used to run Windows as a guest os with passthru access to a dedicated disk/drive and it did run great. I could even reboot natively into Windows using the same disk.

I haven't done it again on my upgraded machines and instead use a dedicated Windows gaming machine. Proton should work fine for the games I play as it doesn't need any (incompatible) anti-cheat software--just haven't got around to it.

Re: Microsoft might want to be making Windows 12 a subscription OS, suggests leak

#79
post #72
post #69

Wasn't windows 10 supposed to be the "last windows ever" ? Have been hearing about the subscription windows for 20+ years and it hasn't happened yet.

> Wasn't windows 10 supposed to be the "last windows ever" Microsoft has never said that. Edit: since people are still confused. 1. What was said was "...and because Windows 10 is the last version of Windows, we’re all still working on Windows 10". This was said by a Microsoft developer evangelist, never it was an official corporate position or an announcement. And most certainly no one said "ever". 2. You could argu…

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