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Microsoft might want to be making Windows 12 a subscription OS, suggests leak

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Re: Microsoft might want to be making Windows 12 a subscription OS, suggests leak

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Post by DistractionRect »

weatherlight wrote: post #33

I already dual boot windows 11 and NixOS. I only use Windows for some games on Steam, everything else I do in nix land. (My work computer is a Mac but that could be switched easily as well.) There isn't a world where I would pay a subscription for an OS, given the plethora of good and stable distros of linux (and OSX)

Similar story here, I take it a step further and boot windows as a guest VM with hardware passthrough w/ evdev + ddcutil as a software kvm switch. The only time I boot it baremetal is for programs that are hostile to being run in a VM.

It's a good learning exercise, and the community over at /r/vfio + their discord is pretty helpful.

Some madlads take it a step further and create something similar to wslg, but with the host programs overlaid over the guest desktop, https://www.reddit.com/r/VFIO/comments/yrqcq4/2in1_os_with_l...

Re: Microsoft might want to be making Windows 12 a subscription OS, suggests leak

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Post by porridgeraisin »

ianceicys wrote: post #59
itishappy wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not a subscription, that's amortization. The critical difference is that amortization decreases your cost per unit time with use. More use, better value. Subscriptions do not work that way. Having to pay $50/year for a 5 year old laptop doesn't excite.

The problem with Amortization in the consumer space is the lifetime of the device. Sure, you can keep running a computer for year 6 instead of the standard 5 years...but 90% of consumers don't - What machines from 2016 are you using today? If you do, let's get serious you're already looking to upgrade in the near future, no?

I agree no one uses devices for long. But as a pedantic N=1... I use a computer from around 2011-13.. can't quite remember. Added a stick of RAM(it came with 4gb), and changed the HDD to an SDD, and had to replace the coin cell battery in the nvram once, all told for So yes, we exist too.

But, no complaints, linux windows all of it work flawlessly.

Re: Microsoft might want to be making Windows 12 a subscription OS, suggests leak

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Post by itishappy »

ianceicys wrote: post #59
itishappy wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not a subscription, that's amortization. The critical difference is that amortization decreases your cost per unit time with use. More use, better value. Subscriptions do not work that way. Having to pay $50/year for a 5 year old laptop doesn't excite.

The problem with Amortization in the consumer space is the lifetime of the device. Sure, you can keep running a computer for year 6 instead of the standard 5 years...but 90% of consumers don't - What machines from 2016 are you using today? If you do, let's get serious you're already looking to upgrade in the near future, no?

Me? None. I give them to my mom.

Re: Microsoft might want to be making Windows 12 a subscription OS, suggests leak

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Post by theandrewbailey »

stranded22 wrote: post #30

I’m old enough to remember when windows 11 was going to be the last windows.

I'm old enough to remember when Microsoft said Windows 10 was going to be the last version of Windows.

https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-ve...

Re: Microsoft might want to be making Windows 12 a subscription OS, suggests leak

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Post by Medox »

Source site seems to be down. Windows Central has some clarifications:

> Now, references to a subscription model were found in the latest Windows preview builds, suggesting that Microsoft is finally going to force users to pay a monthly subscription to use Windows, right? No. These references are almost definitely tied to the newly discovered "IoT Enterprise Subscription" edition of Windows 11, not the client version of Windows vNext.

https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/no-o...

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