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Re: Sqrt(x*x+y*y)+3*cos(sqrt(x*x+y*y))+5 from -20 to 20

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Post by mvgoogler »

huhtenberg wrote: post #29

This looks... erm ... neat. A "sophomore OpenGL term project" kind of neat. Wolfram on the other hand does the graphs right [0], which hardly surprising given their 20 years of head start. On a more general note, this reminds me of old Microsoft's tactics. Google should really stick to the search, but instead they throw together something that mimics competitor's feature. Something that looks more featureful and whic…

So if a user enters the following search query: Sqrt(xx+yy)+3cos(sqrt(xx+y*y))+5 from -20 to 20

And gets a graph of the equation as the top result, are you claiming that this is a poor search experience? Are you claiming that this is a bad result?

If not, how is this feature not an improvement to search? How is this not "sticking to search"?

Note - I was not involved in any way with this feature, or with search quality in general

Re: Sqrt(x*x+y*y)+3*cos(sqrt(x*x+y*y))+5 from -20 to 20

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Post by wcarss »

I didn't see anyone mention this specific fear, but a lot of people talked about this in the context of competition with Wolfram Alpha. What I fear is that google (on purpose or not) will outshine Wolfram's offering, push W|A out of the game, and then in 3-6 years decide it is not a feature worth keeping up.

Just like code search, viable companies may fail due to Google toying with their entire industry, and then Google may just drop us back to the stone age in terms of that category of product. The fact that this is a fear at all points (in my mind) to some issues of monopoly.

Then again, maybe I'm just too cynical and worried.

Re: Sqrt(x*x+y*y)+3*cos(sqrt(x*x+y*y))+5 from -20 to 20

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Post by smokinn »

wcarss wrote: post #92

I didn't see anyone mention this specific fear, but a lot of people talked about this in the context of competition with Wolfram Alpha. What I fear is that google (on purpose or not) will outshine Wolfram's offering, push W|A out of the game, and then in 3-6 years decide it is not a feature worth keeping up. Just like code search, viable companies may fail due to Google toying with their entire industry, and then Goo…

I don't fear Google dropping us behind where we are, I fear another IE6.

IE6 back in the day was actually quite good. But because it was really good (among other other more shady things) everything else died off and it stagnated.

What I fear is google keeping us in a local maxima of search and having us stagnate there for a decade.

Re: Sqrt(x*x+y*y)+3*cos(sqrt(x*x+y*y))+5 from -20 to 20

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Post by fferen »

sceaj wrote: post #13

One of the differentiating factors of Wolfram|Alpha: Gone. Google's doesn't require a 250mb plugin to become interactive (just a webgl capable browser...). And it seems to be about 8 times faster than W|A... W|A still does a lot of things other sites don't do, but it tends to be unusably slow, and inconsistent (running same query twice in a row will sometimes not give all of the same results). I figure the end is pro…

Wolfram Alpha also seems to bail out when a mathematical expression exceeds a certain complexity, which makes it fairly useless for the only thing I want to use it for - evaluating hairy integrals and other long expressions. Or worse, it just "interprets" it as a part of my original expression and calculates that, as if I just typed out the rest of it because I enjoy typing random symbols. It seems like such a waste to fire up Mathematica every time but I haven't found any comparable online tools.

I think W|A could have been a great tool for this kind of thing but instead it tried to cover every subject instead of doing one thing well.

Re: Sqrt(x*x+y*y)+3*cos(sqrt(x*x+y*y))+5 from -20 to 20

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Post by darien »

cdvonstinkpot wrote: post #85

Clickable: https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=sin%285.5x%29*cos%285*... https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=1%2F%20sin%2... https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=sqrt%28x*x%2By*y%29%2B... https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=5000-140*%28x*x%2By*y%... https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=sin%28x^2%2By^2%29%2F%... https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=tanh%28y%28y^4%2B5x^4-... https://encrypted.google.com/…

Thanks for reposting webgl.com's cache of equations. I've updated the list here http://www.webgl.com/2012/03/webgl-demo-google-search-3d-gra...

Re: Sqrt(x*x+y*y)+3*cos(sqrt(x*x+y*y))+5 from -20 to 20

#97

Post by troyastorino »

fferen wrote: post #95
sceaj wrote: post #13

One of the differentiating factors of Wolfram|Alpha: Gone. Google's doesn't require a 250mb plugin to become interactive (just a webgl capable browser...). And it seems to be about 8 times faster than W|A... W|A still does a lot of things other sites don't do, but it tends to be unusably slow, and inconsistent (running same query twice in a row will sometimes not give all of the same results). I figure the end is pro…

Wolfram Alpha also seems to bail out when a mathematical expression exceeds a certain complexity, which makes it fairly useless for the only thing I want to use it for - evaluating hairy integrals and other long expressions. Or worse, it just "interprets" it as a part of my original expression and calculates that, as if I just typed out the rest of it because I enjoy typing random symbols. It seems like such a waste…

If you just type in the expression as Mathematica code, doesn't Wolfram Alpha evaluate it just as Mathematica would?

Re: Sqrt(x*x+y*y)+3*cos(sqrt(x*x+y*y))+5 from -20 to 20

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Post by [deleted] »

fferen wrote: post #95
sceaj wrote: post #13

One of the differentiating factors of Wolfram|Alpha: Gone. Google's doesn't require a 250mb plugin to become interactive (just a webgl capable browser...). And it seems to be about 8 times faster than W|A... W|A still does a lot of things other sites don't do, but it tends to be unusably slow, and inconsistent (running same query twice in a row will sometimes not give all of the same results). I figure the end is pro…

Wolfram Alpha also seems to bail out when a mathematical expression exceeds a certain complexity, which makes it fairly useless for the only thing I want to use it for - evaluating hairy integrals and other long expressions. Or worse, it just "interprets" it as a part of my original expression and calculates that, as if I just typed out the rest of it because I enjoy typing random symbols. It seems like such a waste…

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