Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Pixel 8 Pro

store.google.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

831–840 of 885 posts

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

#831

Post by kramerger »

kkielhofner wrote: post #759
kramerger wrote: post #701

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have to repeat this in every discussion about Android updates :( It is almost as people in these Apple vs Android arguments have no idea how Android actually work...

And in every discussion mentioning Android and Apple people see it as some kind of religious debate. I do not care what anyone does or doesn’t use. I have no stake in this and I don’t see it as some kind of argument. That said, I do know this and your reply is based on either a misunderstanding of my point or optimism/enthusiasm for some kind of argument you seem to think we’re having. I’m not talking about the built…

This is not a "religious debate".

You are making incorrect assumptions in a discussion and don't like to be corrected.

For the record, Android can also update system libraries via the store. The two platforms handle security updates very differently. If you want to get into a debate and criticise the one you are not using, at least try to learn how it works.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

#832

Post by [deleted] »

tyre wrote: post #561
ccooffee wrote: post #527

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Unless you're already sitting on FU money, I don't understand why anyone would spend more [than $50/yr on phone upgrades]. Among the people I know, there's more people living paycheck to paycheck and getting annual phone upgrades than people with FU money doing upgrades. That said, the percentage of FU money upgraders is higher than the percentage of paycheck-to-paycheck upgraders. Google/Samsung/Apple/etc may be m…

There's a point at which something like a new smartphone isn't a status symbol anymore. Among wealthier people, having an iPhone 11 isn't less of a signal than a day one iPhone 15.

[deleted]

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

#833

Post by bongoman37 »

Alacart wrote: post #84
andrewstuart2 wrote: post #3

I'm really glad to see both the partnership with iFixit and the 7 years of support. Because everything else seems mostly meh to me, and while I'm upgrading this year from a Pixel 6 Pro, the continued diminished returns make it seem likely that 2-3 years from now I won't have as much reason to.

My experience with my own pixel 7 pro and a pixel 5 has been that these devices are an order of magnitude lower in build quality than Samsung or iPhones. I really, really wanted to be happy with them but they've been a never ending source of frustration. My pixel 5 just stopped turning on one day about 2 years in, and my pixel 7 pro had the volume and power buttons fall out about 3 weeks in (not due to a drop, after…

[dead]

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

#834

Post by entropicgravity »

vel0city wrote: post #317
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's funny because if they did not release a new phone every year, the old phones would be useful for longer. I recently had to replace my iPhone 7s plus because it was getting so slow I sometimes could not get the camera to open as it loaded the system down too much. This was despite the fact that the system said my battery was not degraded (it had been replaced with Apple Care a couple of times). Of course when it…

I wonder how much of that is the software demands increasing and the flash storage itself wearing out over time. As flash storage wears it'll often go slower and slower as the error correction needs to process more to actually get you the uncorrupted bits. This is why a lot of cheap devices tend to just become unbearably slow after a while, their storage just gets to be way too slow. Flash storage doesn't last foreve…

Don't be surprised if your latest 'update' is a 'downdate' in disguise. IE it's purposely designed to go slower when the maker has decided that it's time for you to upgrade your device.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

#835

Post by mcsniff »

goles wrote: post #506
mcsniff wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Been holding on to my Pixel 5 with GrapheneOS for a while hoping a smaller Pixel is available. I might consider the non-Pro since it now has a 120Hz screen and is smaller.

Check into the developer of GrapheneOS reputation. From a friend who used to use GrapheneOS and flashed back. You want that guy pushing code to your phone?

The GrapheneOS project, and by extension the developers, have principles around code that I agree with.

I've followed, from a safe distance, the CopperheadOS saga, et al the other dramas and bullshit over the years.

The product is still good and I will continue to use and evaluate my usage of it. Until the product materially changes, I will stick with it.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

#836

Post by oska »

hotnfresh wrote: post #484
Moldoteck wrote: post #298

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Waiting when button phones will become the trend again

Maybe I’m weird, but I’d sooner get rid of all my “real” computers and replace them with a typewriter (or… nothing) than ditch my smartphone. It does way too much useful stuff.

Not weird compared to the general population I think but I would hope still a weird sentiment for the general HN readership.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

#837

Post by rsynnott »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #776
rsynnott wrote: post #718

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh? I just replaced my four year old iPhone 11 Pro with a 15 Pro. The upgrade's nice, but it was a pure luxury purchase, the old phone was still running fine (mostly I wanted the 120hz display, and 5G). There was a time when a 4 year old smartphone was verging on unusable, but that's long past now.

Either I'm having bad luck with phones, or Android flagships just don't have the longevity iPhones do. I can believe the latter, as this seems to be the common belief about all Apple devices relative to competition.

What’s wrong with them after four years?

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

#838

Post by sprkv5 »

elif wrote: post #757

Please Google, get rid of the camera bulge. I've use every single pixel from the Nexus line to the pixel to the 6, and the reason I skipped 7 is that the camera bar on the 6 is soo annoying. It makes the phone 'negatively compatible with wireless charging, that is to say, when I put it on the phone spot in my car, it makes just enough contact with the wireless charger to go in and out of barely-in-range, causing my p…

Try holding the Pixel 7a or a Pixel 6a in a store - the camera bar doesn't jut out much compared to the Pixel 7 / Pixel 7 Pro.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

#839

Post by hotnfresh »

oska wrote: post #836
hotnfresh wrote: post #484

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I’m weird, but I’d sooner get rid of all my “real” computers and replace them with a typewriter (or… nothing) than ditch my smartphone. It does way too much useful stuff.

Not weird compared to the general population I think but I would hope still a weird sentiment for the general HN readership.

I dunno—I can use a "real" computer to do geek stuff, but my phone does a whole hell of a lot more that's way, way more important to my everyday life, most of which a "real" computer would be worse at or isn't practically an alternative at all. I'd have to spend money and space (for other electronics) plus a bunch of time to replace what a smartphone does for me. Losing my "real" computers would do me practically no harm, by comparison (assuming we're not counting my employer's computer that they loan me so I can earn a paycheck—gotta have that, sure)

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

#840

Post by sprkv5 »

Xeamek wrote: post #201
Darky wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. it's not a vote, it's a market. 2. Pixel devices set the standard for every other android phones. the coverage is legit.

How do pixels set the standard any differenty then samsungs?

They do in many ways. Pixels have clean focused software that are excellent at what they do - it makes you want them. Also they dont include bloatware unlike Samsung.

1. Pixel Camera taught Samsungs and iPhones about computational photography pipelines and Night Sight,

2. Recorder,

3. Photos + various editing features (Top Shot / Best take / Magic Eraser),

4. Phone + various features (Call Screening(US) / Hold for Me(US) / Spam Protection)

5. Google Pay (UPI - India specific)

6. Gestures - Flip to Shh / Double Tap to open Camera / Twist twice in camera for Selfie mode.

and many more that I have missed.

Post reply on HN