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Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by saagarjha »

dheera wrote: post #540
fomine3 wrote: post #455

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Titanium matters for lightweight that is one of the important spec for some people. They aren't good at advertising this (or don't want to advertise much to make heavier again in the future?)

You wouldn't notice it, the difference in weight between aluminum and titanium phone shell is negligible compared to the weight of the glass, battery, and PCBs combined. Titanium sounds cool, it sounds luxury, it's a marketing hack. Like "aircraft-grade" "space-grade" aluminum. Nobody is launching their aluminum phones at escape velocity. It's 100% for marketing reasons. I have some titanium spoons, I feel into the t…

I went into an Apple Store and did in fact notice it: it’s quite obvious. I would suggest you do the same before just assuming it’s the same.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by Gigachad »

11mariom wrote: post #666
jowea wrote: post #549

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There's new cars each year, but hardly anyone is switching yearly, right?

Is it? New generations are not released every year. It takes 5-8 years to show something new. In the middle of it there is facelifting (sometimes smaller, sometimes bigger). But I wouldn't say that one, particular model of car have new version each year. There is no reason to release flagship phones each year.

Because if someone is looking to buy a new phone and they see the pixel is 3 years old while the Samsung is 3 months old and 5% faster, you’re going to buy the Samsung.

So every maker has to have the best they have on sale at all times.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by distances »

justusthane wrote: post #555
smusamashah wrote: post #477

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Do security updates really matter that much? May be they do depending on your usage patterns. I think anyone will be fine without most of those security updates. Also most of the slowdowns are caused by automatically updating apps which keep gaining weight with every update.

Yes, security updates absolutely matter regardless of your usage pattern. You could unwittingly visit a website that has been compromised to exploit a zero-day in your browser. Or receive a malicious text message. Or open a PDF. Or or or.

Nobody that I know cares the least bit if they get security updates or not. Could be that it changes if there ever comes along a widespread exploit that won't get patched, but currently it's just not a concern especially for any non-techie.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by krzyk »

nsriv wrote: post #331
krzyk wrote: post #95

I wonder if this time they allow you to take that 50Mpix photos, or are they magically transformed to 12Mpix again. Pixel 7 Pro also had 50Mpix sensor.

The Pro gives you access to full res RAW images from each sensor which are all 48mp (on the Pro, not sure about regular), not accounting for digital crops, which are 12mp center binned. As a sidebar, you're all over this thread with negatively framed and inaccurate musings on features, so I'd recommend you give the product page or critical reviews a more serious look rather than letting other people do the work for y…

I came here after reading the product page, and comparing it to Pixel 7 pro.

Bith have similar sensor with 50mpix, they don't mention what is mpix if actual jpegs in neither of the pages.

7 got 12mpix jpegs.

Face Unlock is also not that promoted as it should be, I didn't see the note about it being strong security from just the selfie camera. That's the single feature that will make it buy that phone and ditch Pixel 4.

All over? Just two posts, one which is still not decided until someone gets a hand on the phone and make some photos.

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Post by thebruce87m »

dlubarov wrote: post #673
thebruce87m wrote: post #660

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If they wanted a new sale, why not do nothing and let the phones reboot? Why only target individual handsets with degraded batteries? Why bring the phone back to full speed when the battery was changed? Why does the feature still exist? The only thing that has changed is they now tell you if it’s happening.

> why not do nothing and let the phones reboot Assuming for the moment that reboots were a serious concern, and not just a fabricated excuse... it's better for Apple's reputation for old phones to be slow than to be flaky. With the former, people were assuming that Apple's shiny new OS required state-of-the-art hardware to run smoothly. It just appeared as if technology was advancing rapidly, and one had to buy the l…

> Assuming for the moment that reboots were a serious concern

They still are. As a battery ages the internal resistance increases. This leads to brown-outs under high current. This isn’t unique to Apple, it’s just how batteries work.

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Post by medo-bear »

ColoursofOSINT wrote: post #602
jmprspret wrote: post #566

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GrapheneOS has been the target of ongoing personal attacks against the former lead dev. None of the claims are true. GOS devs have been swatted and harassed on multiple occasions. I suggest you examine the baseless claims against the (former) lead dev more closely - they are fabrication. (He has been harassed so much, with death threats and the like, that he has recently stepped down as lead dev).

I use GrapheneOS, and I've donated to its development. To say that "None of the claims are true" and that they are "baseless" is incorrect. Louis Rossman was a supporter of the project until he and Daniel had a failing out in which Daniel behaved inappropriately [1], all over a Youtube comment. There's proof for that and other claims [2, 4, 5]. Daniel can be a talented developer, privacy advocate and asshole at the s…

Think about all the products you purchase. Do you really think that in each case, the CEO of the company behind that product has a "pattern of behaviour" we approve of? [I really doubt it.] But here we are concerned about personality quirks of a guy developing a valuable free product.

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Post by gambiting »

ako wrote: post #616
kimbernator wrote: post #229

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I think that a new phone release should just be warranted. The trigger should be "we made significant improvements that couldn't be applied in software to the old device" instead of "it's October"

Having a cadence helps improve quality by standardization and repetition. It’s just like with agile and scrum, the cadence improves quality, and releasing often reduces risks by making smaller changes.

>> It’s just like with agile and scrum, the cadence improves quality

In my experience of years working in agile and scrum methodologies all cadence does is it makes developers release unfinished code to tick boxes and show that they are productive every sprint.

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Post by prmoustache »

inejge wrote: post #619
scarface_74 wrote: post #584

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You really don’t think people accidentally jump in pool, drop their phone in a puddle, in the sink, in the toilet etc?

They do, but they were also doing it before the phones were routinely designed to be waterproof, and I don't recall an epidemic of water-related phone-killing incidents.

you don't mind so much when it is a 50$ phone, a bit more on a 1100$ one. Not that I understand why anyone would pay more than 250$ in a smartphone really.

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Post by dieortin »

saagarjha wrote: post #679
winter_blue wrote: post #635

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> Of course when it was new the camera opened quickly. And then Apple made their OS more heavy weight every year until my phone slowed to a crawl. Realistically what exactly could it be doing more on startup, that would slow it down so much? I wonder if there’s code that simply intentionally slows it down. Like the Camera app calculating the value of PI for some number of digits before opening up. There would be a ma…

Opening the Camera app on iPhone is one of the most demanding tasks it can possibly do. Doing it and doing it fast means powering up the image sensor and its supporting hardware (ISP, ML hardware, etc.) and immediately terminating all non-essential tasks on the device so it can dedicate it to this. If you don’t believe me, there are paths hardcoded in the kernel (I’m not joking: https://github.com/search?q=repo%3Aapp…

But it also did all that when new, and the camera still opened fast.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by ryanjshaw »

dotancohen wrote: post #664
kaba0 wrote: post #654

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Your bubble is showing again — only rich parents’ kids buy a new phone yearly.

This is not Reddit, you do not need to prefix comments with personal attacks. Nor is karma farmed here by insinuating that you are poor, confused about your gender, or had abusive parents. If by "bubble" you mean my family, nobody but the eight year old has seen a new phone since before the first COVID lockdowns. And the phones that my children use were are purchased with money they earned themselves - including the…

Genuinely curious - how did your 6-8 year old earn an income that didn't come from his parents?
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