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Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by dotancohen »

iancmceachern wrote: post #645
dotancohen wrote: post #374

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Since buying a larger-screen e-ink device, I have been wanting to go back to a dumb phone. But just a few features preclude this. 1. Dialing in the dumb phone. No dumb phones support CardDav syncing. 2. Very few dumb phones can function as wifi hotspots for the e-ink device. 3. Few dumb phones can record calls. 4. I forget what eight was for... seriously I had one or two other issues but I don't remember what they we…

Android phones can't record calls either.

My current Samsung Note does.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by eptcyka »

jacooper wrote: post #383
eptcyka wrote: post #310

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Older phones don't get significantly cheaper when bought new, used ones are a gamble, and the savings don't go that far anyway when you consider the amount of updates you'll be receiving diminishes.

Pixels are supported for 7 years, starting with the 8. P6+ for 5 years Also I'm talking like a couple months later, not a whole year.

Sure, but my perfectly working Pixel 5 is going out of support before the end of the year, I expect the resale value to be 0.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by Freak_NL »

someonehere wrote: post #636
kimbernator wrote: post #178

It's starting to feel silly, having a yearly release cycle for smartphones. So much of this product page is focused on new software functions that may have some vague relationship with the slightly upgraded hardware, but that could mostly be released to existing phones. Every new iPhone, Pixel, or Samsung phone basically claims the camera is marginally better and hey, look at these software features that have very li…

I agree. I was convinced I need to move from an iPhone 14 to iPhone 15. My reasoning was better camera. I honestly was going to skip upgrading but the camera and some other minor features were enough for me to make the upgrade happen. I feel if these companies worked together to cut back on the waste of yearly release cycles, there’d be better environmental results. But every year we have a new feature because tech h…

What is stopping you from just using your old phone until it actually needs replacing?

I have a Pixel 6 which takes excellent photos. In two years time, it will still take excellent photos, regardless of what the Pixel 8 or 9 or 10 does.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by dotancohen »

kaba0 wrote: post #654
dotancohen wrote: post #363

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And those people are the reason that the average is three years, instead of one year like the teenagers do.

Your bubble is showing again — only rich parents’ kids buy a new phone yearly.

This is not Reddit, you do not need to prefix comments with personal attacks. Nor is karma farmed here by insinuating that you are poor, confused about your gender, or had abusive parents.

If by "bubble" you mean my family, nobody but the eight year old has seen a new phone since before the first COVID lockdowns. And the phones that my children use were are purchased with money they earned themselves - including the eight year old. He decided at six that he wants a phone, and saved for two years to buy one - not a grain of which was aquired through his parents.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by extr »

hiatus wrote: post #100
nicbou wrote: post #12

6.7 inch screen. My Pixel 5 is already big. This one is an inch bigger in my hand and in my pockets. Price increase. 875€ in Europe. The Pixel 5 was 630€. Do you really get 40% more phone?

I am also in the Pixel 5 group and have been struggling to find a replacement as our phone nears its end of security updates. Does anyone have any suggestions for a potential replacement? There seem to be few phones in this size and weight class.

I was in the same boat and opted to use this moment to make the switch to an iPhone 15P. It's an interesting transition, haven't fully bought in yet.

If I stayed on Android I would probably be looking at an Asus Zenfone 10. Similar form factor and battery life to Pixel 5. Pretty good reviews. Check it out as an option.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by 11mariom »

jowea wrote: post #549
heroiccocoa wrote: post #495

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But phones are manufactured regardless, so why not let the people who are currently in the market for a new device get something current? The yearly release cycle isn't meant to be kept up with every year, in fact I think that that notion is so hilariously out of touch basically everywhere except the US (and a small international wealthy elite elsewhere) that it would be ridiculed. Remember, the global median per-cap…

There's new cars each year, but hardly anyone is switching yearly, right?

Is it? New generations are not released every year. It takes 5-8 years to show something new. In the middle of it there is facelifting (sometimes smaller, sometimes bigger). But I wouldn't say that one, particular model of car have new version each year.

There is no reason to release flagship phones each year.

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Post by extr »

bobviolier wrote: post #186
hiatus wrote: post #100

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I am also in the Pixel 5 group and have been struggling to find a replacement as our phone nears its end of security updates. Does anyone have any suggestions for a potential replacement? There seem to be few phones in this size and weight class.

When do the security releases stop? I was assuming for another year as I am currently downloading Android 14. I was going to wait for Pixel 9 (currently also on Pixel 5).

This month. Android 14 is one of the last updates it will get IIRC.

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Post by TeMPOraL »

throwawake wrote: post #574
xyzelement wrote: post #514

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What is the evidence of this claim? My wife just got to a place where her iPhone got unusable because it's running out of space - mainly having to do with her massive Messages history and photos/videos. We didn't even know until I checked, her phone is the iPhone X which was released 6 years ago and technically nothing is stopping her from using it longer except the lack of desire to prune her message history/photos/…

As another data point, I've a tendency to not store too many photos and messages for long term. I think thats the reason why my 7 plus is still running like new after all these years. The only reason I'll upgrade will be 5G.

I do that too, recently for the first time enabled cloud sync (had a 1 TB of OneDrive storage sitting unused anyway), so most photos delete themselves from the phone eventually. But that's compensating for tech deficiency, though.

What is the point of me having 256 GB of storage on the phone, if the phone starts slowing down wholesale once I take 50% of it? I get that there needs to be some buffer for swap and flash magic and whatnot, but I'd thought it would be closer to PC / Windows, where everything is fine until ~90% storage being used.

That's on top of bloated software doing background magic. Can't speak for other phones and brands, but my experience with Samsung flagships (S4, S7, wife's S9, now S22) is that the camera and gallery app are bloated, and their performance degrades rapidly with the amount of photos you take - around 50% worth of storage is when camera starts having delays on the order of seconds, interfering with its core purpose of taking photos.

(And it's not that it couldn't be better - Samsung just isn't investing effort in making core system apps performant enough. It's hard to find efficient apps these days on the Play Store, but there are rare exceptions, like e.g. Aves gallery, which is FLOSS and manages to be leaner, faster and significantly more feature-full than just about anything else, stock or third-party.)

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by minorannoyance2 »

iancmceachern wrote: post #645
dotancohen wrote: post #374

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since buying a larger-screen e-ink device, I have been wanting to go back to a dumb phone. But just a few features preclude this. 1. Dialing in the dumb phone. No dumb phones support CardDav syncing. 2. Very few dumb phones can function as wifi hotspots for the e-ink device. 3. Few dumb phones can record calls. 4. I forget what eight was for... seriously I had one or two other issues but I don't remember what they we…

Android phones can't record calls either.

Recording calls was possible on pretty much any Android phone until google killed the accessibility API in May 2022, since then at least Google and Samsung phones can still record calls, it's just disabled in some countries for legal reasons, but people then buy phones from other regions on ebay/other similar platforms. It's been a "thing" for years.
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