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Vespa.ai is spinning out of Yahoo as a separate company

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Re: Vespa.ai is spinning out of Yahoo as a separate company

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A company so brilliant it is still below its stock price in the year 2000.

In March 1999, a share of CSCO was worth about $26. At its peak a year later, March 2000, it was worth about $82 (3x increase.) [0] I don't know about you, but that seems likely to be an excessively inflated figure to me (a la the dot-com bubble.) Comparing any company's value to its valuation during the dot-com bubble seems silly to me. [0] https://finance.yahoo.com/chart/CSCO

They're also returning like $6 billion/year to their shareholders via dividends -- if they had just hoarded that cash, their share price would obviously be much higher.

Re: Vespa.ai is spinning out of Yahoo as a separate company

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vespa tech was one of the big reasons yahoo was attractive as an acquirer for del.icio.us. unfortunately they promptly withheld it afterwards.

That's a name I haven't heard in awhile. I thought the concept of it was amazing and tags were the solution to everything. Remember machine tags? Oh how things have evolved.

Not to mention the naming trend companies took on for a decade afterwards.

Re: Vespa.ai is spinning out of Yahoo as a separate company

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It definitely could not have done that. In the same year that Google had Borg, and AWS released EC2, at Yahoo, David Filo was still personally reviewing hardware requests.

But like Amazon, Yahoo had developed scalable solutions in-house to run Yahoo. That was Amazon's motivation for launching AWS. They had already developed all these solutions for themselves and got the idea to monetize their infrastructure. I don't see why Yahoo couldn't have done the same thing. Plus Yahoo was sitting on Hadoop until it got spun off. And the kicker is Yahoo briefly started to offer enterprise big dat…

Pipes ouputting to a RSS or ATOM feed piped into Google Reader

The technology of yesteryear, I miss it so.

Re: Vespa.ai is spinning out of Yahoo as a separate company

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> Yahoo will own a stake in the new company and will be one of Vespa’s biggest customers for a long time to come. what's usually going on in scenarios like this is either: the subsidiary is in growth mode and needs access to public capital markets to raise large amounts for building infrastructure (and sharing the expenses with others) to compete, or what has been built is going into profitability mode and the profit…

Cisco has its famous 'Spin-in' strategy. A "spin-in" is a form of R&D in which a company is the sole investor in a startup. It sends a team of employees off to build an experimental product and then buys that startup for a predetermined and very healthy price. Cisco has spent on average $763 million to acquire each spin-in that these three men have founded, even though Cisco was also the sole investor in each. https:…

So in buying such a company, do the employees get any ownership and stake?

Re: Vespa.ai is spinning out of Yahoo as a separate company

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post #18

Vespa has been around for a LONG time. When I worked at Yahoo back in 2005-2007 the Flickr team were using it to scale Flickr - they were integrating it in order to serve things like public tag pages, to take the load off their MySQL cluster. I remember understanding it as the internal equivalent to something like Solr, although actually it predated it - looks like the first public Solr open source release (coming ou…

> Vespa has been around for a LONG time

True. I bought my first Vespa in 1984

Re: Vespa.ai is spinning out of Yahoo as a separate company

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post #46

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Thank you for the shout-out Frank!

Off topic... looking forward to more engineers moving to Mastodon. I have Twitter/X blocked at DNS level and still fairly frequently encounter interesting accounts that I can't check out.

How is it other people’s problem that you block a site that they’re on?

(Fwiw I have Twitter blocked too, though not for moral reasons)

Re: Vespa.ai is spinning out of Yahoo as a separate company

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It had all started a bit earlier with a colleague (I assume that's you up there, jkb79 :) pulling the leg of a guy visiting us from the Bangalore office, about the polar bears roaming the streets of Trondheim. We just thought we'd prank him a bit about having more dangerous animals than they did in India. Nothing too serious. So a few months later I woke up early one morning and saw it had been snowing all night. I m…

> the Dangerous Wildlife War between India and the home of the proper vikings. Was there an other side to this war? The most dangerous animal you're likely to come across (realistically, without getting photoshop involved) in an average Indian street would be a monkey. I've also come across many varieties of snakes, from time to time, but they're generally chill and just want to be left alone. The monkeys are ruthles…

Oh, absolutely not. They had no idea, and it wasn't really a thing outside of a few minutes of pranking one engineer visiting us + a bit of photoshopping for fun.

The only ones to ever get in touch about this whole thing was, 1) The Y! corporate blog who wanted us to make a lighthearted a fun write-up about the polar bears, which I cannot seem to find online anymore, and 2) a random local from Trondheim, Norway who sent me quite the angry e-mail telling me that I was single-handedly ruining the tourism business in town with that silly image.

Re: Vespa.ai is spinning out of Yahoo as a separate company

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post #62

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Norway also had the FAST search company acquired by Microsoft. Is Norway particularly good at making search stuff?

Actually, Vespa comes out of the same FAST company. Yahoo bought Overture/Altavista and a lot of other web search companies in 2003, including the web search division of FAST. The Enterprise search division of FAST was later acquired by Microsoft.

Ah, I see. Thanks for some background!

Re: Vespa.ai is spinning out of Yahoo as a separate company

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post #82

> Yahoo will own a stake in the new company and will be one of Vespa’s biggest customers for a long time to come. what's usually going on in scenarios like this is either: the subsidiary is in growth mode and needs access to public capital markets to raise large amounts for building infrastructure (and sharing the expenses with others) to compete, or what has been built is going into profitability mode and the profit…

We’re at a moment in history where AI companies (especially ones with proven cashflow like this) are getting almost all the VC money and wild multiples.

It seems like the smart move to spin it out to access this money.

Re: Vespa.ai is spinning out of Yahoo as a separate company

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Off topic... looking forward to more engineers moving to Mastodon. I have Twitter/X blocked at DNS level and still fairly frequently encounter interesting accounts that I can't check out.

How is it other people’s problem that you block a site that they’re on? (Fwiw I have Twitter blocked too, though not for moral reasons)

Nobody's saying it's anybody else's problem - they're just looking forward to more content being on Mastodon (or elsewhwere) as people move away from X.
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