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Re: Vespa.ai is spinning out of Yahoo as a separate company

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Post by 90-00-09 »

throwaway280383 wrote: post #50
parthdesai wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>When was the last time you changed your mail id? I get this sentiment, but I don't know anyone in my age group (late 20s/early 30s) that use yahoo mail either. My dad did use yahoo mail, but i'm guessing it has about 20 years left.

Most growth currently is international. Remember, gmail doesn't work in China :)

Interesting point but makes me wonder whether it's meaningful. There are plenty of local Chinese email providers, why would anyone choose Yahoo specifically?

Re: Vespa.ai is spinning out of Yahoo as a separate company

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Post by lmm »

mathrawka wrote: post #38
ilickpoolalgae wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think the Japanese entity and US entity have any relation to each other anymore. I think US entity divested itself of Yahoo Japan completely in 2018 or so. Yahoo Japan is now collectively owned by Softbank and Naver under some holding company (it was big news in Japan when the merger happened).

They actually rebranded from "Yahoo! Japan" to "Line Yahoo" https://www.lycorp.co.jp/ja/

It's not just a rebranding, they've merged with Line.

Re: Vespa.ai is spinning out of Yahoo as a separate company

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Post by rrdharan »

simonebrunozzi wrote: post #36
weare138 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yahoo could have been the next AWS if it hadn't been horribly mismanaged.

And tens of others: Sun Microsystems, even Google, etc.

Could have been Google, Could have owned Google..

https://yourstory.com/2023/05/yahoos-billion-dollar-blunders....

Re: Vespa.ai is spinning out of Yahoo as a separate company

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Post by manp2 »

fzliu wrote: post #41

I was at Yahoo almost a decade ago, when vector search within Vespa was first being rolled out in production use cases. It was already serving similarity search requests for Flickr back then. Even though I'm with Zilliz/Milvus now, I wholeheartedly support and recommend folks check out and try Vespa. Congrats to the Vespa team! EDIT: For folks on Twitter, you should follow Jo ( https://twitter.com/jobergum ) from Ves…

any resource for one to learn on vector search? any textbook or whitepaper recommendations?

I am learning lsh right now and find it fascinating

Re: Vespa.ai is spinning out of Yahoo as a separate company

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Post by rmccue »

sph wrote: post #64
rmccue wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“vespa” means wasp in Italian, and it seems unlikely that they’re in the same trademark categories.

I'll go create my line of scooters and call it Google, see if their lawyers care about not being in the same trademark category. The Vespa is an iconic and well known brand in Italy and worldwide. If Piaggio isn't litigating it, I wonder what their lawyers are even doing.

The standard generally is whether the trademark would cause confusion to or deceive consumers. Naming a company after an existing brand which is an invented word (being a corruption of googol) would fall under the latter, and intent matters too.

As to the former, trademark classes are one of the ways in which confusion is determined, but it’s not the only way for sure.

That said, if it’s a word borrowed from another language and there’s no intent to deceive, I imagine courts would allow it - see also Apple/Apple Corps, and the many companies called “Delta” not in the airline business.

Re: Vespa.ai is spinning out of Yahoo as a separate company

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Post by rmccue »

simonebrunozzi wrote: post #35
rmccue wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“vespa” means wasp in Italian, and it seems unlikely that they’re in the same trademark categories.

Try telling that to Apple.

Aside from the famous case of Apple Corps as noted by jollofricepeas, there are multiple other trademarks for “Apple” as a single word in the US, including for tobacco, horseshoes, books, and travel.

Re: Vespa.ai is spinning out of Yahoo as a separate company

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Post by fzliu »

manp2 wrote: post #74
fzliu wrote: post #41

I was at Yahoo almost a decade ago, when vector search within Vespa was first being rolled out in production use cases. It was already serving similarity search requests for Flickr back then. Even though I'm with Zilliz/Milvus now, I wholeheartedly support and recommend folks check out and try Vespa. Congrats to the Vespa team! EDIT: For folks on Twitter, you should follow Jo ( https://twitter.com/jobergum ) from Ves…

any resource for one to learn on vector search? any textbook or whitepaper recommendations? I am learning lsh right now and find it fascinating

We have a "Vector Database 101" series that covers vector search and vector indexes as well: https://zilliz.com/learn/what-is-vector-database

I've been meaning to dive into SCaNN and DiskANN as well, but haven't gotten around to it yet.

Re: Vespa.ai is spinning out of Yahoo as a separate company

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Post by lanstein »

fzliu wrote: post #41

I was at Yahoo almost a decade ago, when vector search within Vespa was first being rolled out in production use cases. It was already serving similarity search requests for Flickr back then. Even though I'm with Zilliz/Milvus now, I wholeheartedly support and recommend folks check out and try Vespa. Congrats to the Vespa team! EDIT: For folks on Twitter, you should follow Jo ( https://twitter.com/jobergum ) from Ves…

Huge congratulations to JKB, Frode, Kim, and the rest of the Vespa team! We are infinitely grateful for all of your help and advice. We are lucky enough to have Vespa as the foundation for our developer-focused enterprise search product.

Having worked with both Solr and Elastic in past search companies, it’s incredible to be able to deploy into Fortune 50 enterprises without any doubts about stability and with all the benefits of a cutting-edge hybrid engine.

Can’t wait to watch you on the next leg of your journey!

The Atolio team

Re: Vespa.ai is spinning out of Yahoo as a separate company

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Post by neilk »

weare138 wrote: post #34
zitterbewegung wrote: post #20

What hasn’t spun out of Yahoo?

Yahoo could have been the next AWS if it hadn't been horribly mismanaged.

It definitely could not have done that.

In the same year that Google had Borg, and AWS released EC2, at Yahoo, David Filo was still personally reviewing hardware requests.

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