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Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by freeAgent »

soperj wrote: post #34
ireallywantthat wrote: post #6

Too expensive for my tastes. Give me 380USD phone which lasts for next 5-8 years, feels premium, is repairable, camera is decent, replaceable battery, OS is just Vanilla Android with atleast 5 years(more years of Software updates would be welcome) of Software Updates and when you can't provide it, make it hackable enough to install Custom ROMs.

I still don't get the "premium feel" line when everyone covers their phone in a case anyway. I don't care if my phone is made of plastic when it actually makes it less prone to breaking when dropped.

There are also some plastics that feel fine, IMO. It’s mostly a matter of whether the phone creaks or bends easily.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by deergomoo »

Comparing this to the regular Pixel 8 it doesn't look like you get an awful lot more for your extra £300, I'm surprised there's such a delta.

Bigger screen (which for many is a minus not a plus), an extra 4GB RAM (still seems absurd to me that we need this much RAM on a phone) and more capable/additional auxiliary cameras.

I suppose the charitable take is that £700 feels like a pretty good deal for the non-Pro one.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by grepLeigh »

This is a meta comment, but I think it's extraordinary that we're only 15ish years from the first smartphone release and we've already reached the "boring" incremental improvement phase for these tiny pocket supercomputers.

Consider how long it took PCs to reach the same stage (with a fraction of the adoption). It was like 20 years from Kenbak-1 to the 90s PC era.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by hef19898 »

kenhwang wrote: post #167
Alacart wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My experience with my own pixel 7 pro and a pixel 5 has been that these devices are an order of magnitude lower in build quality than Samsung or iPhones. I really, really wanted to be happy with them but they've been a never ending source of frustration. My pixel 5 just stopped turning on one day about 2 years in, and my pixel 7 pro had the volume and power buttons fall out about 3 weeks in (not due to a drop, after…

My friends regularly have to have their Pixels replaced/retired due to hardware failures around the 2 year mark. The 7 years of support is nice, but these phones don't last anywhere near that long.

I had a Pixel 2 XL that was replaced this year not because it was broken, well the screen was bit that's hardly the phones fault, but because my carrier had an offer on a Pixel 7 that was too good to be true. The Pixel 2 is still working so, even if there are no more OS updates anymore.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by duffyjp »

andrewprock wrote: post #155
Alacart wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My experience with my own pixel 7 pro and a pixel 5 has been that these devices are an order of magnitude lower in build quality than Samsung or iPhones. I really, really wanted to be happy with them but they've been a never ending source of frustration. My pixel 5 just stopped turning on one day about 2 years in, and my pixel 7 pro had the volume and power buttons fall out about 3 weeks in (not due to a drop, after…

I had one Pixel 2 that lasted five years. I had another that lasted only six months before the screen just stopped working at all. We'll see how long my current Pixel 5a lasts.

My wife's 5a was bit by a common "screen" completely dies for no reason bug. It's more like the phone is stone dead, but that's how Google describes it. Even though she was well past the 1 year warranty they replaced it free under a special warranty program due to how common it is.

And by replaced it, I mean they sent a different phone that had lots of wear and she lost all her non-cloud data.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by eitland »

andrewstuart2 wrote: post #3

I'm really glad to see both the partnership with iFixit and the 7 years of support. Because everything else seems mostly meh to me, and while I'm upgrading this year from a Pixel 6 Pro, the continued diminished returns make it seem likely that 2-3 years from now I won't have as much reason to.

It is soon 5 years ago since I switched after using Android since almost since HTC Hero.

Something like this could have kept me on Android for a longer so I am thankful it did not show up until I had left Android behind.

After years of phones that became slow after a few weeks, having a phone that is still fast after 3-4 years is incredible.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by ActorNightly »

grepLeigh wrote: post #173

This is a meta comment, but I think it's extraordinary that we're only 15ish years from the first smartphone release and we've already reached the "boring" incremental improvement phase for these tiny pocket supercomputers. Consider how long it took PCs to reach the same stage (with a fraction of the adoption). It was like 20 years from Kenbak-1 to the 90s PC era.

I remember getting the original Motorolla droid back in 2010. Half of my friends had iPhones. Other half were still on regular phones.

By 2014, everyone had a smartphone.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by kimbernator »

It's starting to feel silly, having a yearly release cycle for smartphones. So much of this product page is focused on new software functions that may have some vague relationship with the slightly upgraded hardware, but that could mostly be released to existing phones. Every new iPhone, Pixel, or Samsung phone basically claims the camera is marginally better and hey, look at these software features that have very little to do with the hardware and should not fundamentally be a reason to upgrade to this phone.

There is so much time, effort, and physical waste that is generated by slightly redesigning phones every year purely for the sake of making sales (as opposed to meaningful improvement upon the existing design or introduction of a new hardware feature). Think not only of people upgrading for the sake of it, but all of the cases, screen protectors, and other assorted accessories cast in plastic for previous models that are garbage now.

It would be nice if we could just space these things out to 5 years or so now, because that's probably how long it takes for anything to change enough to justify a new model.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by morsch »

seanalltogether wrote: post #141
ForkMeOnTinder wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interestingly the non-Pro pixels have been trending in the right direction for size. The Pixel 6 is 6.4" The Pixel 7 is 6.3" The Pixel 8 is 6.2" If the trend continues we only have to wait 3 more years for a < 6" phone

They are close to being back to original size of the pixel 3 which in my opinion was the perfect size. Pixel 8 - 150.5 x 70.8 x 8.9 mm Pixel 6 - 158.6 x 74.8 x 8.9 mm Pixel 3 - 145.6 x 68.2 x 7.9 mm

It's also very close to the size the smaller (non-plus etc) Samsung flagship phones have head for years:

S10: 149.9 x 70.4 x 7.8 mm

S20: 151.7 x 69.1 x 7.9 mm

S21: 151.7 x 71.2 x 7.9 mm

S22: 146 x 70.6 x 7.6 mm

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by slashtab »

retskrad wrote: post #112

The Pixel has like 1% of smartphone market and Google has been making their down devices for 10 years now! I have two questions: 1. Why hasn’t Google pulled the plug and thrown in the white towel yet? People have voted with their wallets and chosen Samsung and Apple. 2. Why is the Pixel devices getting such a massive news coverage? Other smartphone ORM’s with similar market share doesn’t get the same treatment.

It is better for all of the Android enthusiasts.
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