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Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by jfengel »

xnx wrote: post #65
ireallywantthat wrote: post #6

Too expensive for my tastes. Give me 380USD phone which lasts for next 5-8 years, feels premium, is repairable, camera is decent, replaceable battery, OS is just Vanilla Android with atleast 5 years(more years of Software updates would be welcome) of Software Updates and when you can't provide it, make it hackable enough to install Custom ROMs.

A Pixel 6 Pro meets all these criteria except for replaceable battery.

The battery is replaceable, just not by the user (at least not easily). I've had my Pixel battery replaced; the cost didn't seem exorbitant.

It would be nice to be able to pop batteries in and out on the fly, but I suspect that would make it a lot harder to waterproof. I've lost more phones to water damage than I have to battery death.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by [deleted] »

plorkyeran wrote: post #144
12907835202 wrote: post #60

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No company will ever make a 5-8 year phone at that price. That's $47-76 a year. People pay that amount or more for apps that help manage their fantasy football team... Comparitively that would be an insane bargain for a phone and it's absurd for that to be your requirement. I do wonder what the right price point would be for a subscription model. At the moment the average replacement time is every 2 years which would…

The current iPhone SE starts at $430 and will (probably) get at least 5 years of updates. If budget phone makers can't do something cheaper than the iPhone SE then surely their entire business model is just fucked?

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Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by Alupis »

fullstop wrote: post #130
panarky wrote: post #94

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Pixels get updates direct from Google, doesn't depend on your carrier.

This isn't entirely true. I have a Pixel 7 Pro and T-Mobile -- updates can be delayed by the carrier. https://9to5google.com/2023/01/12/google-pixel-t-mobile-upda...

don't buy modern phones direct from carriers, unless the deal is too good to pass up.

unlocked, carrier-agnostic phones are the way to go.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by fullstop »

sphars wrote: post #148
fullstop wrote: post #130

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This isn't entirely true. I have a Pixel 7 Pro and T-Mobile -- updates can be delayed by the carrier. https://9to5google.com/2023/01/12/google-pixel-t-mobile-upda...

Did you purchase your phone from T-Mobile? I'm on T-Mobile but I always buy my Pixels direct from Google. All updates have come direct from Google, no T-Mobile involvement at all.

In this particular case, yes, but the update can still be blocked by the carrier. People have been successful in updating the device by temporarily putting the SIM from another carrier in the phone.

My daughter's Pixel 5a update, for example, was delayed but it was purchased from Google.

To be clear, the update _does_ come directly from Google but the device won't show that the update is available until the carrier gives the green light. The factory image can still be sideloaded.

The P7P is the first phone that I've not purchased outright, and that's because TMO was willing to give me a ridiculously generous offer to trade in a OnePlus 7t.

edit: another link -- https://www.androidpolice.com/pixel-t-mobile-update-delayed/

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by vetinari »

retinaros wrote: post #156
Alacart wrote: post #84

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My experience with my own pixel 7 pro and a pixel 5 has been that these devices are an order of magnitude lower in build quality than Samsung or iPhones. I really, really wanted to be happy with them but they've been a never ending source of frustration. My pixel 5 just stopped turning on one day about 2 years in, and my pixel 7 pro had the volume and power buttons fall out about 3 weeks in (not due to a drop, after…

the nexus one was a beautifully engineered phone after that they moved to plastic and everything went down

Galaxy nexus, while plastic, was still very nice phone.

Nexus 5 had already quality issues. Pixels went downhill completely, while simultaneously bumping up the price.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

krzyk wrote: post #136
stonewhite wrote: post #119

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Features do include Face Unlock if you scroll down enough

That's the unsecure one with only camera. And they don't allow to use that where fingerprint. Pixel 4 had dot projector for security.

They seem fairly confident in it.

"Face Unlock on Pixel 8 now meets the strongest Android biometric class and can be used for banking app sign-in and payment apps like Google Wallet."

https://blog.google/products/pixel/google-tensor-g3-pixel-8/

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by kenhwang »

Alacart wrote: post #84
andrewstuart2 wrote: post #3

I'm really glad to see both the partnership with iFixit and the 7 years of support. Because everything else seems mostly meh to me, and while I'm upgrading this year from a Pixel 6 Pro, the continued diminished returns make it seem likely that 2-3 years from now I won't have as much reason to.

My experience with my own pixel 7 pro and a pixel 5 has been that these devices are an order of magnitude lower in build quality than Samsung or iPhones. I really, really wanted to be happy with them but they've been a never ending source of frustration. My pixel 5 just stopped turning on one day about 2 years in, and my pixel 7 pro had the volume and power buttons fall out about 3 weeks in (not due to a drop, after…

My friends regularly have to have their Pixels replaced/retired due to hardware failures around the 2 year mark. The 7 years of support is nice, but these phones don't last anywhere near that long.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by fullstop »

Alupis wrote: post #163
fullstop wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't entirely true. I have a Pixel 7 Pro and T-Mobile -- updates can be delayed by the carrier. https://9to5google.com/2023/01/12/google-pixel-t-mobile-upda...

don't buy modern phones direct from carriers, unless the deal is too good to pass up. unlocked, carrier-agnostic phones are the way to go.

I agree, that's how I ended up buying the P7P through TMO -- it was a ridiculously generous offer.

With the Pixel updates, at least, the updates come through Google but the carrier (at least TMO) can prevent this from happening even if the phone is unrestricted.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by vetinari »

thefz wrote: post #150
Alacart wrote: post #84

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My experience with my own pixel 7 pro and a pixel 5 has been that these devices are an order of magnitude lower in build quality than Samsung or iPhones. I really, really wanted to be happy with them but they've been a never ending source of frustration. My pixel 5 just stopped turning on one day about 2 years in, and my pixel 7 pro had the volume and power buttons fall out about 3 weeks in (not due to a drop, after…

> My experience with my own pixel 7 pro and a pixel 5 has been that these devices are an order of magnitude lower in build quality than Samsung or iPhones. Subjective, I am at my third Pixel phone in six years and I never had an issue.

> I am at my third Pixel phone in six years and I never had an issue.

Don't you think that three phones in six years is the issue?

I'm still on 2019 Galaxy S10, i.e. fourth year, single phone. The hardware is still in great condition, no malfunction of anything.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by skavi »

vetinari wrote: post #165
retinaros wrote: post #156

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the nexus one was a beautifully engineered phone after that they moved to plastic and everything went down

Galaxy nexus, while plastic, was still very nice phone. Nexus 5 had already quality issues. Pixels went downhill completely, while simultaneously bumping up the price.

The Nexus One was built by HTC. The Galaxy Nexus was built by Samsung. The Nexus 5 was built by LG. Pixel is in house, of course, but IIRC, Google bought a fragment of HTC some time ago.
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