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Lumber prices down 11% YoY

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Re: Lumber prices down 11% YoY

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For the unfamiliar, a "board foot" is a unit of lumber volume representing a square foot of board with 1 inch thickness. So an 8' long board 12" wide and 1" thick is 8 board feet. Or half as wide and twice as thick (6" x 2") in the same length is also 8 board feet. You get the idea.

When you say one inch wide, do you mean one of the twelve things in a foot, or one of the two things in the width of a 2x4?

The "smallest dimension is 1".

So in a 10ft long 2x4 it would be the actual size of a 2x4 (1.5"x3.5"x10').

A standard board foot would be (1"x12"x12"), or any other math that makes up the same volume.

Re: Lumber prices down 11% YoY

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I love the tradingeconomics site for tracking commodities prices. Indeed, lumber is at pre-pandemic prices from 5 years ago https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/lumber

Cripes what is going on with orange juice.. there’s some seasonal patterns in the last 25 years, but the last year has just kept climbing.

I've often idly wondered whether there is more speculative trading in orange juice than other commodities because of Trading Places[1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trading_Places

Re: Lumber prices down 11% YoY

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The chart in the article does a nice job at illustrating that prices are roughly speaking back to essentially pre-pandemic levels after giant spikes. This seems healthy to me.

Crazy to think people were doing construction and remodeling at 3x typical lumber costs

Re: Lumber prices down 11% YoY

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Labor to fix your house is still very much more expensive than before COVID

Not doubting you, but why?

A few factors - labour markets are very tight generally, new housing construction has increased, WFH and hybrid has increased the demand for renovating existing housing to make space for home offices (and improve the amenity of housing more generally).

Re: Lumber prices down 11% YoY

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Cripes what is going on with orange juice.. there’s some seasonal patterns in the last 25 years, but the last year has just kept climbing.

Here in Florida, citrus greening has devastated the groves.

Aren’t some growers able to grow in Georgia now, whereas they hadn’t been able to before? I seem to recall something about that.

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The chart in the article does a nice job at illustrating that prices are roughly speaking back to essentially pre-pandemic levels after giant spikes. This seems healthy to me.

Crazy to think people were doing construction and remodeling at 3x typical lumber costs

These things are always cyclical, but FOMO is a tough emotion to combat.

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Metric makes the math easier, but it is much easier for me to relate to 40 board-feet of lumber than to 0.0944 cubic-meters.

Just like temperature. F is easier for me to relate to. 0 is very cold. 100 is very hot. We like it pretty warm, so 70-72 is great. Also F has a much finer scale for adjustments. I don't have to set my thermostat to 22.5 degrees to be comfortable. I don't really care about the boiling point or freezing point of water in my day to day life.

I bet you likes miles, feet and country specific gallons too. Enjoy your unit system!

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Not doubting you, but why?

A few factors - labour markets are very tight generally, new housing construction has increased, WFH and hybrid has increased the demand for renovating existing housing to make space for home offices (and improve the amenity of housing more generally).

Constriction of foreign-born labor as well

https://www.nbcnews.com/data-graphics/tough-immigration-laws...

Re: Lumber prices down 11% YoY

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The chart in the article does a nice job at illustrating that prices are roughly speaking back to essentially pre-pandemic levels after giant spikes. This seems healthy to me.

Crazy to think people were doing construction and remodeling at 3x typical lumber costs

It was only 3x the cost because people had 3x the excess money.
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