Kickstarter: rails.app

Post by specialist » Thu, Mar 29, 2012, 8:18 PM UTC

sanderjd wrote: post #100

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and even if it were only 5 it would be worthwhile to make it easier Seriously? 1. Install XCode and homebrew 2. sudo brew install {postgresql,rbenv,ruby-build} 3. Close terminal. Open terminal. 4. mkdir proj && cd proj && rbenv install 1.9.2-p290 && rbenv local 1.9.2-p290 5. gem install rails && rbenv rehash 6. rails new foo Honestly, we can argue if this was 5 steps or 8. We can also argue if 'rbenv rehash' should b…

Dude, take a step back and forget that you know this stuff already and do it professionally. That list is not easy and far from obvious, even for real programmers coming from other environments, let alone for actual programming beginners. Your list is far from canonical even at this very moment and hasn't even been common for very long. To figure out your list, I have to: 1) know that homebrew is the "right" way to i…

Post by chc » Thu, Mar 29, 2012, 9:48 PM UTC

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He's not complaining about bloat. Unlike many other high-level languages, Ruby has several viable execution environments (MRI 1.8, MRI 1.9, Rubinius, and JRuby) and Rails works on all of them. OS X ships with a system Ruby. The result seems to be that some people have trouble getting the right combination of runtime and libraries running.

And that's my point, Rails has a lot of functionality that it provides through a lot of dependencies. Exactly the opposite of the self-contained mini-framework (if not micro-) it started as.

Post by oinksoft » Fri, Mar 30, 2012, 2:00 AM UTC

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Why? Maybe he was paid by the linux foundation during that time? Other sources of income? The gratuit "of course" is not clear to me. And Rails is sponsored by 37Signals. You'd be hard pressed to find very many large open source projects without commercial backing. Are you saying that Yehuda should not make money from his efforts, but the Ruby developers in turn can use the results naturally for their gain? That is g…

What is "FLOSS"? Free/Open Source software? The fact that you can't even refer to it without an acronym that conflates two opposed philosophies suggests that maybe the "spirit of FLOSS" is less well-defined than you think it is. In any event, it is better than Katz should work directly for people who are going to use his software than that he work for some giant company that incidentally finds it valuable to task him…

Post by wh-uws » Fri, Mar 30, 2012, 5:57 AM UTC

RegEx wrote: post #61

wh-uws wrote: post #40

What about on a virtual private server like at linode? Then one doesn't necessarily have to shell out for a Mac to run osx. I would be much more interested in that.

If you're interested, I have a rails template with extensive documentation on setting it up on a server from scratch. https://github.com/Hack56/Rails-Template/wiki

Post by adriand » Fri, Mar 30, 2012, 11:24 AM UTC

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Giles, you're acting like a prima donna over what is really a minor quibble with the way Bundler works. How many people do you honestly think get hung up on a warning from Bundler that gives you clear instructions on what to do next? And I know you like to exaggerate things to make a point, but do you really think that warning was added to heckle and mock people? Because that's ridiculous. I can tell you one thing: t…

well yeah. here you are making this personal, and what I said is I'm not going to give Yehuda any money because I criticized his PROJECT and he responded with 'fuck you giles.' so he made it personal, and you're making it personal too. I'm not saying Bundler should be destroyed and it's a thing of evil. I said it was super useful but had very aggravating flaws which indicate that Rails went off the rails. If you guys…