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Even in February
Especially in February.
If you put your employees on an airplane flying westwards, you can have people work up to 36 hours per day.
Return to Office Is Bullshit and Everyone Knows It
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Sure, but RTO is about… forcing the preference for in person work on everyone.
RTO doesn’t really work if five people are back in the office.
Manufacturing buggy whips doesn't work if only five people own buggies. This is a problem for the buggy whip manufacturer to solve, not the people who bought a car or took the train.
There's a third option beyond forcing everyone into boxes in the middle of nowhere (old and busted) and everyone working from home (new old hotness).
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#274Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you are building a remote-first company why would you restrict your talent pool to a single metropolitan area?
Reasons: language, culture, legal, accounting, taxes...
You can get all of those slightly outside a 100 mile radius from you. Remote doesn't mean you have to hire on the opposite side of the planet.
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#275If I start a company tomorrow, this is what I would want to do: 1. Hire within a general metropolitan area (2 hour commute max). 2. WFH for 28 days a month. 3. 2 days a month the entire org convenes in a ballroom or something and works together, have some progress reports, happy hours and hackathons. In this model, everyone’s remote most of the time. Yet everyone gets FaceTime with each other IrL. Seed ideas and brai…
You're throwing away the biggest advantage for the company allowing remote work -- hiring talent from anywhere. WFH has a lot of advantages for employees, but also for the employer. The main one being a diverse workforce. What I've seen work, which I think still hits your goals of occasional face time, is to have a quarterly offsite for the whole company. Everyone works remotely, but once a quarter you find a nice lo…
You could probably have people travel for what an office in a major metro area costs.
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#276I work in-office as does 100% of the team. This works great for us. My friend runs a startup with a geographically distributed team. That works for them. There's enough employment available in both areas. You can select what you want.
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#277Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's BS because its unilaterally telling everyone to come back to office without data supporting the move.
Was the remote working 'movement' then based on data? Or was it covid?
Remote work was supposed to be temporary. Remember "2 weeks to slow the spread"?
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#278Earlier quoted context omitted.
Prior to COVID, everyone understood that remote work was supported by some companies and not others. It was also a type of work that was preferred by some employees and not others. As a result, everyone peacefully self-selected into their preferred employment relationships. Companies got the type of workforce they wanted and workers chose the type of environment they wanted. It was great. Today, as some companies are…
> the company has no obligation to keep an employee working in a remote context that the company doesn't favor anymore. Some people who were hired in as permanent remote, now are being demanded to sell their homes and move to cities they’ve never been to before. Companies have no obligation to keep any USA-based employee working (other countries may have different laws), but some reasonable severance payouts would be…
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#279Remote "work" is fine (with pros and cons). The problem is lots of people don't "work" remotely. Also, inevitably remote/async work flips the priority such that employee would be much more responsive to interrupts/errands of their own life than to focus their full attention on the employer's concerns.
> Also, inevitably remote/async work flips the priority such that employee would be much more responsive to interrupts/errands of their own life than to focus their full attention on the employer's concerns. Which is how it should be. Life is a lot more than living for your employer.
That is a sensible approach from the employee's perspective, but surely as an employer I know what my priority is in this transaction. And guess what, the employer is the one making the rules. The employee can choose not to play and pressure them in the market, but they don't have much leverage to modify the rule directly. Not surprising that many employers are backtracking on remote work.
Nevertheless, it proves that RTO is not bullshit, contradicting the title of the article.
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#280This is one aspect of the RTO discussion that's sometimes missed: there are plenty of people in the tech sphere (myself included) who've been comfortably remote for much longer than those who were pushed into remote work by lockdowns and pandemic response. We're not about to give up a whole lifestyle we've built over (in some cases) decades, on the whim of whichever executive we happen to be serving under at the pres…
Prior to COVID, everyone understood that remote work was supported by some companies and not others. It was also a type of work that was preferred by some employees and not others. As a result, everyone peacefully self-selected into their preferred employment relationships. Companies got the type of workforce they wanted and workers chose the type of environment they wanted. It was great. Today, as some companies are…
No, management has been lying to employees with the "working in an office is more effective" for decades. Now the king is naked and yet companies are trying to manipulate people to return to offices.